The Case For A Creator

There is no reasonable, rational or logical support for a belief in a creator.I believe there was a Creator but I understand that is simply an unreasonable illogical irrational belief.There is no "Case for a Creator".

Jesus had absolutely nothing to do with the Nicene Creed but yes, the Nicene Creed in particular is unreasonable, irrational and illogical. For the same reason anyone believes anything, how they were brought up, what social influence were in their life, comfort.The fact is that I do believe but don't try to pretend that it is not illogical, unreasonable and irrational.

There you go making the same old mistake.No belief is evidence of anything except that someone believes. A belief that Jesus is alive has no real meaning unless you can explain what that even means.

But in fact the Bible repeatedly says just that; that it is not what you say, not what you profess to believe, not what you do believe but what you actually do that counts. It's not that God would show mercy to an atheist but rather God would rejoice in an atheist with no desire to accept Jesus but who dutifully and perhaps even joyfully clothed,fed, encouraged, and edified the people with no strings attached.But again, that has absolutely NOTHING to do with any "Case For A Creator".

But Phat, what does the evidence show?How many Gods are there?Since the God in Genesis 1 is described as an entirely different character and personality than the God of Genesis 2&3 how can you determine which is the REAL God and which is (are) simply made up?What about Thor and Ra and Ganesh and Apollo and Coyote and Raven and Tengri and Shiva and Odin?What does the evidence show?

But there is no more evidence that the Judaic God or even Jesus is not simply made up just like Apollo, Ra, Thor, Odin, Tengri, Ganesha ...And the question "How do you know what you think is God is God?" remains.

You are Phat.

LOLWe can only know if and when Jesus shows up in a testable and verifiable form and asks the question.Sheesh Phat.Such a question is simply silly and without any connection to reality beyond one cults dogma.

Of course I can say what is reality and what is dogma; sheesh Phat.Reality is evidence based, testable and verifiable independently. Dogma is the stuff made up by a particular cult and common only within that cult. There you go dishonestly misrepresenting what I have said YET AGAIN.What I have said is that so far NO ONE has ever been able to explain how anyone can know if it is God or not.And that in particular includes you Phat. And there you go just spouting Dogma yet again Phat and I really don't think you even know when you are doing it.Just how do you determine that God does not allow Himself to be revealed objectively so that any layman can simply examine His merits as if buying a product by any means other than the Dogma of your chosen Cult?