Exposing the evolution theory. Part 2

Kleinman:

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Their beliefs are so weird

Dredge:

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Throw out the truth - as atheists do - and all you have left is nonsense and superstition.

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It is worse than nonsense and superstition, it is harmful and destructive.

Kleinman:

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vimesey thinks I can do photosynthesis. He pictures me as plankton!

Dredge:

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I remember as a boy my grandfather saying that his great-grandfather was known for being able to perform partial-photosynthesis ... strong evidence that we share common ancestry with plants.

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These biologists have laymen thinking they are related to fecal bacteria. I'm impressed with their ability to do a con job.

It's very sad that the noble science of biology has for decades been dominated by Darwinoid bs-artists and con-men.

Kleinman:

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These biologists have laymen thinking they are related to fecal bacteria. I'm impressed with their ability to do a con job.

Dredge:

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It's very sad that the noble science of biology has for decades been dominated by Darwinoid bs-artists and con-men.

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Darwin got some things right, he correctly described descent with modification and adaptation, and biological competition. However, he didn't do the mathematics. Biologists have done ok when it comes to doing the mathematics of biological competition but failed to understand how it affects descent with modification and adaptation. If Darwin and biologists had done the mathematics of descent with modification and adaptation correctly, they would have seen that universal common descent is not possible. Darwin had a good excuse, he had no awareness of DNA or mutations, biologists on the other hand, have no excuse for their blunders and ongoing con job.

As an undergraduate Zoologist I lived with two Aeronautical Engineers. They explained mathematically to me that bumble bees can't fly.The observation of bees flying suggested that the mathematics might be incomplete or just wrong. The problem was solved in 2000.The Bumblebee Flight Myth - Animal DynamicsYou see Kleinman, you have it all backwards, your model needs to explain reality, if it can't, it's wrong.

Tangle:

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As an undergraduate Zoologist I lived with two Aeronautical Engineers. They explained mathematically to me that bumble bees can't fly.

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Can't you think of any new lines? This is the same stupid argument people like you come up with when they can't explain how drug resistance evolves or why cancer treatments fail. By the way, I learned in engineering school that if you put big enough engine on anything, you can make it fly. Since I haven't brought up bumble bees anywhere in this discussion, only the physics and mathematics of biological evolution, explain why it takes a billion replications for each adaptive step in the Kishony and Lenski experiments. Or are you one of those biologists that think that experimentation and mathematics has no place in scientific analysis?

Tangled is just being a good Darwinoid. A good Darwinoid claims to have "proof" and "facts" when all he has is theory, speculation and belief. Darwinoids are con-men ... they lie all the time.

No wonder the Darwinoid cult doesn't like your mathematics ... a billion replications per adaptive step makes their common-descent bedtime story look like a bedtime story.

Kleinman:

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explain why it takes a billion replications for each adaptive step in the Kishony and Lenski experiments. Or are you one of those biologists that think that experimentation and mathematics has no place in scientific analysis?

Dredge:

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No wonder the Darwinoid cult doesn't like your mathematics ... a billion replications per adaptive step makes their common-descent bedtime story look like a bedtime story.

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That's only the beginning of the story. The Kishony and Lenski biological evolutionary experiments are performed in a single selection environment. In a multiple selection pressure environment, the number of replications necessary for adaptation goes up exponentially. That's why 3-drug combination therapy (3 selection pressures) works for the treatment of HIV. Even HIV cannot reach a population size for descent with modification and adaptation to work when the evolutionary process has to evolve to 3 simultaneous selection conditions. That is what this mathematics is all about. Are chimps and humans related? No way, you just don't have the population size for this kind of evolutionary process to happen.

Mission: Impossible.

Kleinman:

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Are chimps and humans related? No way, you just don't have the population size for this kind of evolutionary process to happen.

Dredge:

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Mission: Impossible.

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Perhaps if they put some Starship Enterprise impulse engines on their idea of UCD, they could make it fly, at warped mind speed.

Ouch! You're a real party-pooper and balloon-burster ... not to mention having little aptitude for fairy-tales.

Kleinman:

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That's only the beginning of the story. The Kishony and Lenski biological evolutionary experiments are performed in a single selection environment. In a multiple selection pressure environment, the number of replications necessary for adaptation goes up exponentially.

Dredge:

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Ouch! You're a real party-pooper and balloon-burster ... not to mention having little aptitude for fairy-tales.

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Oh, I like fairytales. When we were young we got Mother Goose, and now that we are older, we get Papa Gander.

I didn't get that one straight away.The Darwinoid cultists are very devoted to Papa Gander - in fact, they much prefer PG to science and reality.

Kleinman:

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When we were young we got Mother Goose, and now that we are older, we get Papa Gander.

Dredge:

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I didn't get that one straight away.
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The Darwinoid cultists are very devoted to Papa Gander - in fact, they much prefer PG to science and reality.

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Have a happy and joyous resurrection day.

Thank you. Happy Easter.