Exposing the evolution theory. Part 2

Kleinman:

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Shut it down if you can AZPaul3 but the physical and mathematical facts have come out that explains how biological evolution works.

AZPaul3:

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And no one else on the planet has figured out how all this works. Only you.
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Charlatan.

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Somebody had to do it, biologists certainly haven't explained how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail or how the Kishony and Lenski experiments work.

Yes, we are familiar with your demented ravings and your arrogance as a religious lone wolf fighting against the demons of reality. No one believes you.All the smart guys in the field know a hell of a lot more than you. Hell, the vast majority of them never heard of you or your asinine notions. That's how much knowledge you bring to the world. Science rejects your psychotic stupidity.You are a demoniac charlatan.

Kleinman:

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Somebody had to do it, biologists certainly haven't explained how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail or how the Kishony and Lenski experiments work.

AZPaul3:

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Yes, we are familiar with your demented ravings and your arrogance as a religious lone wolf fighting against the demons of reality. No one believes you.
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All the smart guys in the field know a hell of a lot more than you. Hell, the vast majority of them never heard of you or your asinine notions. That's how much knowledge you bring to the world. Science rejects your psychotic stupidity.
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You are a demoniac charlatan.

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AZPaul3 doesn't believe in God but he does believe in demons. You are very confused as well as being mathematically incompetent. There is a mathematical reason that it takes a billion replications for each adaptive step in the Kishony and Lenski biological evolutionary experiments, and it is the same mathematical reason that three-drug combination therapy works for the treatment of HIV. You and biologists have failed to understand the scientific reason for this.

So says the ignorant charlatan.

Kleinman:

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You and biologists have failed to understand the scientific reason for this.

AZPaul3:

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So says the ignorant charlatan.

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So, I'm no longer demonic? Why would you want to contribute to the deaths of millions of people with drug-resistant infections and failed cancer treatments? Maybe you are the demonic one.

It isn't different. An atheist is someone who lacks a belief in deities. It does not require the additional belief that no deities exist. Some atheists do believe that no deities exist, but some atheists simply lack a belief in deities but can't rule out their possible existence.

A generic retroviral genome looks like this:Multicellular replicators have insertions of these retroviral genomes in their genome. They are easily recognizable as retroviral genomes and LTRs from retroviruses. The 4-6 bases of host DNA at either end of the viral genome for full length insertions is also a dead give away because those are created during insertion of the retroviral genome.Guess what we see with ERVs? We see those host DNA repeats. That means ERVs are the result of viral integration.Not only that, we can reconstruct active retroviruses from ERVs by using a consensus sequence of ERVs.

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Human Endogenous Retroviruses are expected to be the remnants of ancestral infections of primates by active retroviruses that have thereafter been transmitted in a Mendelian fashion. Here, we derived in silico the sequence of the putative ancestral “progenitor” element of one of the most recently amplified family—the HERV-K family—and constructed it. This element, Phoenix, produces viral particles that disclose all of the structural and functional properties of a bona-fide retrovirus, can infect mammalian, including human, cells, and integrate with the exact signature of the presently found endogenous HERV-K progeny.
Identification of an infectious progenitor for the multiple-copy HERV-K human endogenous retroelements - PMC

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We hear the same thing from Flat Earthers. They also have their one or two papers that they trot out and can't speak on anything else.

Kleinman:

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It seems like that definition is different than the one you gave previously.

Taq:

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It isn't different. An atheist is someone who lacks a belief in deities. It does not require the additional belief that no deities exist. Some atheists do believe that no deities exist, but some atheists simply lack a belief in deities but can't rule out their possible existence.

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So you don't know whether a deity exists or not.

Kleinman:

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Tell us what the genetic structure of a virus is, for example, HIV and tell us if multicellular replicators have any similar types of genetic structures.

Taq:

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A generic retroviral genome looks like this:

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Multicellular replicators have insertions of these retroviral genomes in their genome. They are easily recognizable as retroviral genomes and LTRs from retroviruses. The 4-6 bases of host DNA at either end of the viral genome for full length insertions is also a dead give away because those are created during insertion of the retroviral genome.

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Guess what we see with ERVs? We see those host DNA repeats. That means ERVs are the result of viral integration.

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Not only that, we can reconstruct active retroviruses from ERVs by using a consensus sequence of ERVs.

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Human Endogenous Retroviruses are expected to be the remnants of ancestral infections of primates by active retroviruses that have thereafter been transmitted in a Mendelian fashion. Here, we derived in silico the sequence of the putative ancestral “progenitor” element of one of the most recently amplified family—the HERV-K family—and constructed it. This element, Phoenix, produces viral particles that disclose all of the structural and functional properties of a bona-fide retrovirus, can infect mammalian, including human, cells, and integrate with the exact signature of the presently found endogenous HERV-K progeny.
Identification of an infectious progenitor for the multiple-copy HERV-K human endogenous retroelements - PMC

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You haven't fully answered the question, do multicellular replicators have any genetic structures like viruses? Obviously, viruses have their own particular viral proteins such as reverse transcriptases and proteases as in HIV. How about non-protein coding portions of the viral genome that take control of the host cell to reproduce more viruses rather than the host cell carrying on its own metabolic processes? Does the host genetic structure have a similar genetic structure to the virus? Does the host cell genetic structure have repeated sequences of DNA that are not due to a viral insertion? And have the unique viral proteins been identified in the claimed 203,000 viral infections you claim our ancestors have had and been passed to us?

Kleinman:

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Any stubbornness that I might have is nothing compared to the centuries of stubbornness that biologists have had in their misinterpretation of biological evolution.

Taq:

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We hear the same thing from Flat Earthers. They also have their one or two papers that they trot out and can't speak on anything else.

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Are you going to post a link to a thread in this forum where you explain how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail? You should publish what you are claiming. You might as well tell Kishony and Lenski how their experiments work since you have figured out how descent with modification and adaptation works.

No one does.

Theodoric:

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No one does.

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Atheists seem to think that they know. Do you want to tell us what evidence they have to make their assertion?

Vertebrates do have DNA sequences in their genome that are like viruses because they came from viruses. The viral promoters are specific to viruses. About 90% of human ERV's are solo LTR's due to homologous recombination, as mentioned earlier. Again, these LTR's are specific to viruses, and we know where they come from. The other 10% still have parts of the coding regions from the original provirus.

I don't believe any deities exist which makes me an atheist.I also don't believe that Bigfoot exists. At the same time, I can't say with 100% certainty that Bigfoot doesn't exist, but I have yet to see any compelling evidence that Bigfoot does exist, so I don't believe that Bigfoot exists. The same with deities.