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Topic: Exposing the evolution theory. Part 2
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Taq
Member Posts: 9664 Joined: 03-06-2009 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 556 of 629 (908222)
03-09-2023 1:06 PM
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Reply to: Message 555 by sensei
03-09-2023 12:59 PM
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Re: problems with detecting design
sensei writes: Facts are things that are true with absolute certainty. No, they aren't. Now you are the one making false claims about absolute certainty. Go figure.
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sensei
Member Posts: 343 Joined: 01-24-2023 Member Rating: 1.0
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Message 557 of 629 (908225)
03-09-2023 1:09 PM
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Reply to: Message 556 by Taq
03-09-2023 1:06 PM
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Re: problems with detecting design
I told you, you did not know what facts were.
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Taq
Member Posts: 9664 Joined: 03-06-2009 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 558 of 629 (908228)
03-09-2023 1:12 PM
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Reply to: Message 557 by sensei
03-09-2023 1:09 PM
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Re: problems with detecting design
sensei writes: I told you, you did not know what facts were. You don't know what facts are. Facts are never viewed as being absolutely true. Facts are measurements, and they can be wrong.
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nwr
Member Posts: 6296 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: 08-08-2005 Member Rating: 4.5
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Message 559 of 629 (908229)
03-09-2023 1:16 PM
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Reply to: Message 555 by sensei
03-09-2023 12:59 PM
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Re: problems with detecting design
Wrong. Facts are things that are true with absolute certainty. Fair enough. With that definition, there are no facts and there never could be any facts. Nothing is absolutely certain outside of abstract logic and abstract mathematics.
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 7857 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 2.9
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Message 560 of 629 (908239)
03-09-2023 3:23 PM
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Reply to: Message 557 by sensei
03-09-2023 1:09 PM
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Re: problems with detecting design
I told you, you did not know what facts were. And I told you, you know nothing. I am right again.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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sensei
Member Posts: 343 Joined: 01-24-2023 Member Rating: 1.0
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Message 561 of 629 (908243)
03-09-2023 3:36 PM
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Reply to: Message 559 by nwr
03-09-2023 1:16 PM
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Re: problems with detecting design
That is false evolutionist dogma. I can name many facts. It's possible to change solid ice water to liquid form, by adding heat / energy for example. Facts exist. Countless of them.
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sensei
Member Posts: 343 Joined: 01-24-2023 Member Rating: 1.0
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Message 562 of 629 (908244)
03-09-2023 3:37 PM
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Reply to: Message 560 by AZPaul3
03-09-2023 3:23 PM
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Re: problems with detecting design
Better you go back to kindergarten and play
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 3885 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 3.7
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Message 563 of 629 (908245)
03-09-2023 3:37 PM
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Reply to: Message 560 by AZPaul3
03-09-2023 3:23 PM
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Re: problems with detecting design
And I told you, you know nothing. I am right again. And that's a fact.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty PythonOne important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Taq
Member Posts: 9664 Joined: 03-06-2009 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 564 of 629 (908246)
03-09-2023 3:38 PM
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Reply to: Message 561 by sensei
03-09-2023 3:36 PM
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Re: problems with detecting design
sensei writes: It's possible to change solid ice water to liquid form, by adding heat / energy for example. Your model is that heat causes phase changes. Your evidence is the observation that there are phase changes when heat is added. Is it bad logic to say that heat is responsible for phase changes?
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sensei
Member Posts: 343 Joined: 01-24-2023 Member Rating: 1.0
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Re: problems with detecting design
Another evolutionist who does not know what facts are.
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sensei
Member Posts: 343 Joined: 01-24-2023 Member Rating: 1.0
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Message 566 of 629 (908255)
03-09-2023 3:54 PM
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Reply to: Message 564 by Taq
03-09-2023 3:38 PM
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Re: problems with detecting design
I don't need a model for that. It would be bad logic to claim that everything that can be liquified, is water, just because we have such an abundance of water as evidence to support this claim. As 99% of the time when we see something turn from solid to liquid, it's water. Such overwhelming evidence. That is your level of logic.
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Taq
Member Posts: 9664 Joined: 03-06-2009 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 567 of 629 (908261)
03-09-2023 4:07 PM
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Reply to: Message 566 by sensei
03-09-2023 3:54 PM
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Re: problems with detecting design
sensei writes: I don't need a model for that. Yes, you do.
It would be bad logic to claim that everything that can be liquified, is water, just because we have such an abundance of water as evidence to support this claim. We could use experiments to disprove those predictions, such as melting lead. But of course, you would reject such demonstrations as bad logic.
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nwr
Member Posts: 6296 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: 08-08-2005 Member Rating: 4.5
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Message 568 of 629 (908262)
03-09-2023 4:12 PM
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Reply to: Message 561 by sensei
03-09-2023 3:36 PM
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Re: problems with detecting design
It's possible to change solid ice water to liquid form, by adding heat / energy for example. What makes you so sure that's an absolute truth?
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sensei
Member Posts: 343 Joined: 01-24-2023 Member Rating: 1.0
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Message 569 of 629 (908266)
03-09-2023 4:26 PM
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Reply to: Message 567 by Taq
03-09-2023 4:07 PM
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Re: problems with detecting design
Same, we have data that falls outside of common ancestor prediction. But you are good at staying inside your tunnel vision.
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Taq
Member Posts: 9664 Joined: 03-06-2009 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 570 of 629 (908267)
03-09-2023 4:27 PM
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Reply to: Message 569 by sensei
03-09-2023 4:26 PM
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Re: problems with detecting design
sensei writes: Same, we have data that falls outside of common ancestor prediction. Like what?
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