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Author Topic:   Exposing the evolution theory. Part 2
AZPaul3
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Message 511 of 1104 (907655)
02-27-2023 2:56 PM
Reply to: Message 508 by sensei
02-27-2023 1:06 PM


Re: problems with detecting design
You made false claims about what I said and misreprented my views.
You were unclear.
I don't deny at all, that some sort of nested pattern could arise if life had evolved.
Not could, but did. You have no alternative explanations for the indisputable pattern we do find, as a fact, in both the fissile and genetic data.
So if you want an honest discussion ...
Then put forward your evidence and quit this emotional bitchin about the science and the discussion.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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AZPaul3
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Message 512 of 1104 (907657)
02-27-2023 3:06 PM
Reply to: Message 510 by sensei
02-27-2023 1:14 PM


Re: problems with detecting design
Obfuscation. "from nothing" was not in the question.
So answer Taq's question.
Is each person magically created, or is there a natural process that does exactly what you described?

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Message 513 of 1104 (907659)
02-27-2023 3:26 PM
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02-27-2023 3:06 PM


Re: problems with detecting design
AZExplanations writes:
Obfuscation. "from nothing" was not in the question.
Sensei, I need to teach you a couple of things, if I may. AZ is not simply an atheist. He is a rabid antitheist. He does not believe in magic. I do. When I see wonderful human creativity from my Shen Yun friends, I see the Spirit of Creativity at work, emanating through them. Not from them. Through them. That Spirit is magic and its what created all that is, seen and unseen.
That being said, one good thing about EvC Forum is that in these sorts of arguments, you must be science-minded and specific...unless we are in the Faith * Belief side of the Forum, where you are free to dream, imagine, and allow the Spirit of Creativity to move through you in our futile attempts to open blind eyes.
Some folks are willfully blind. Some folks who accuse you of obfuscation are themselves obfuscators. Its how life is here in America.

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Message 514 of 1104 (907661)
02-27-2023 3:28 PM
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02-27-2023 2:56 PM


Re: problems with detecting design
AZ, some forces in this universe have no objective evidence that you can jot down in your journal. You don't get any.

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AZPaul3
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Message 515 of 1104 (907662)
02-27-2023 3:29 PM
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02-27-2023 3:28 PM


Re: problems with detecting design
Name six.

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Message 516 of 1104 (907663)
02-27-2023 3:30 PM
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02-27-2023 10:58 AM


Re: problems with detecting design
Taq, addressing Sensei writes:
How do you think babies are made? Is each person magically created, or is there a natural process that does exactly what you are describing?
It is both, in my belief.
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Message 517 of 1104 (907664)
02-27-2023 3:32 PM
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02-27-2023 3:29 PM


Re: problems with detecting design
Six what? Forces without evidence? OK. #1 is the Holy Spirit. The Spirit of Creativity. #2-6 are the other spirits. The fallen angels or disembodied souls.
And nope, I have zero evidence. You are free to dismiss me, but thank you for letting me speak in senseis defense.

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AZPaul3
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Message 518 of 1104 (907668)
02-27-2023 4:10 PM
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02-27-2023 3:32 PM


Re: problems with detecting design
#1 is the Holy Spirit. The Spirit of Creativity. #2-6 are the other spirits.
Ahh, yes, ghosts. Except you can't call them forces. They don't do anything including exist.

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Message 519 of 1104 (907675)
02-27-2023 5:02 PM
Reply to: Message 511 by AZPaul3
02-27-2023 2:56 PM


Re: problems with detecting design
Dishonest as ever. You still stand by your misrepresentation of my stance, and refuse to take back. Then zip it, and leave the debate to people who don't lie and misrepresent.

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AZPaul3
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Message 520 of 1104 (907679)
02-27-2023 5:17 PM
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02-27-2023 5:02 PM


Re: problems with detecting design
Then zip it, and leave the debate to people who don't lie and misrepresent.
Then what are you doing here? You have done nothing but lie and misrepresent the science and insult biologists and us evil evolutionists. You don't debate. You deny and obfuscate.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 521 of 1104 (907683)
02-27-2023 5:27 PM
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02-27-2023 5:17 PM


Re: problems with detecting design
Prove it. Where have I lied?
You evolutionist are just the same dishonest fools as ever.

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AZPaul3
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Message 522 of 1104 (907691)
02-27-2023 6:32 PM
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02-27-2023 5:27 PM


Re: problems with detecting design
Where have I lied?
Message 494 for one.
quote:
Evolution from single celled ancestor never happened.
The preponderance of the evidence makes this a lie, especially since you know it is fact that you cannot dispute.
Message 331 for another.
quote:
Other things falsify evolution.
Nothing has falsified evolution. You lied.
That's just this thread. I'll not check the others. This is sufficient.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 523 of 1104 (907695)
02-27-2023 6:58 PM
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02-27-2023 6:32 PM


Re: problems with detecting design
So you accuse me of lying because I don't share your false and ridiculous belief?
Hahahha, the circular reasoning of the dishonest evolutionist in full display!

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AZPaul3
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Message 524 of 1104 (907701)
02-27-2023 7:33 PM
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02-27-2023 6:58 PM


Re: problems with detecting design
I accuse you of lying in the face of the hard evidence. Yes, you lied.
This is not some mere difference of opinion. Yours is the denial of demonstrable fact. Your statements, both of them above, were deliberate distortions of the known facts. That is lying.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 525 of 1104 (907711)
02-27-2023 8:35 PM
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02-27-2023 7:33 PM


Re: problems with detecting design
Hahaha, nested pattern and poor logic is hardly worth it to call evidence. You made so many errors in your logic already, your opinion is worthless to me.

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