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edge Member (Idle past 2002 days) Posts: 4696 From: Colorado, USA Joined:
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Inexplicable gaps and sudden appearances of novel creatures in the fossil record - insects, for example.
But as we have discussed, they are explicable. Certainly more so by natural means than by your aliens which are not supported by any evidence.
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edge Member (Idle past 2002 days) Posts: 4696 From: Colorado, USA Joined: |
Ah yes, but fossils don't confirm that Darwinian evolution is responsible for that progression.
But that wasn't the question was it? You asked:
Where are the missing links between the Ediacaran fauna all the novel phyla that appeared during the Cambrian explosion?
If you want me to answer a different question, you should ask it. Or was this just a typical YEC evasion?
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edge Member (Idle past 2002 days) Posts: 4696 From: Colorado, USA Joined: |
What the evolutionary ancestors of a trilobite? Algae? Bacteria?
Are Ediacaran fauna algae or bacteria? What do you think you are trying to say?
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edge Member (Idle past 2002 days) Posts: 4696 From: Colorado, USA Joined: |
The "incomplete fossil record" excuse is running out of puff ...
Except that it makes sense in not relying on some fanciful, unsupported mechanism such as aliens.
... - Gunter Bechly considers the fossil record to be "saturated" - meaning, we have enough fossil evidence now to conclude that the record is complete in a general sense.
That's a nice opinion. Would you like to hear some others?
That is to say, the gaps and sudden appearances will always be gaps and sudden appearances.
Yes, gaps explainable by known aspects of the fossil record. If you had any experience with science, you would understand. But this way, I suppose you are not constrained by facts and you can make up whatever you want. Edited by edge, : No reason given.
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Pressie Member (Idle past 271 days) Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined:
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Dredge writes: He-he-he. None of the above. You really, really have to study even a bit of Biology.
What the evolutionary ancestors of a trilobite? Algae? Bacteria?
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8685 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 6.1 |
AZPaul3 writes: Fossils give us great big clues to what happened and when I agree - but fossils don't tell us HOW. And just casually ignore the next sentence. Typical YEC.
quote: Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8685 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 6.1 |
I'm not a YEC Yes, you are. You're a poof majik goddoneit creationist. Old young, makes no difference. Like maroon and burgundy. Both are red regardless of how you split the hairs. You are a YEC.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1740 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
He isn't a YEC, he believes in an old earth. Yes it matters.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined: |
Dredge writes: Tanyptyerx writes:
What the evolutionary ancestors of a trilobite? Algae? Bacteria? Curious that all this is incorrect. You have presented no evidence that contradicts the ToE. Which "novel" phyla? Sorry, I don't understand what you are asking here. I will ask again, which novel phyla are you talking about?What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tangle Member Posts: 9609 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 5.6
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Faith writes: He isn't a YEC, he believes in an old earth. Yes it matters. I agree, it helps identify the degree of crazy. True YEC is up there with the flat earthers. On the scale of moronic, YEC is the full 10. This guy is also a 10, though for different reasons. Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined:
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Dredge writes: AZPaul3 writes:
I agree - but fossils don't tell us HOW. Fossils give us great big clues to what happened and when And that does not contradict what the fossils DO tell us. I know you are unaware of this, but science makes no claim to having ALL knowledge. Scientists are adding knowledge all the time. That's why there is science and scientists, because there are still questions to answer.What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined:
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Dredge writes: Ah yes, but fossils don't confirm that Darwinian evolution is responsible for that progression. And they certainly don't refute that evolution is responsible for that progression. Science has moved well beyond Darwinian evolution and I am unaware of anyone bothering to "confirm Darwinian evolution" today.
Dredge writes: And insects appearing out of nowhere, for example, is hardly evidence of Darwinian evolution. Well, it is not evidence of anything, because insects DO NOT appear out of nowhere. Dredge writes: Other huge gaps in the fossil record don't support Darwinism - they contradict it. But they DO NOT contradict evolution.What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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ringo Member (Idle past 707 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
There is a mathematical difference, like the difference between killing one person and two people. But they're both equally wrong, like 2+2=3 and 2+2=5. He isn't a YEC, he believes in an old earth.Izquierdo.
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edge Member (Idle past 2002 days) Posts: 4696 From: Colorado, USA Joined: |
He isn't a YEC, he believes in an old earth. Yes it matters.
IIRC, Dredge has referred several times to the biblical genealogy as some kind of evidence. How does that square with billions of years?
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1740 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I don't know how he puts it all together, he just seems to believe in an old earth and to some extent in evolution too. If I'm wrong I hope he'll come by and explain his views better.
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