Christianity and the End Times

The Rapture already occurred in our previous alternate time line. You know the one we were living prior to Dump getting elected. We are somehow in a different universe now.

That explains a lot....

I'm afraid that my copy of "The History of the End of the World" is an older edition, so I don't know what the current schedule is supposed to be.

I should think 4-20 would be an appropriate choice for Rapture Day.Those of us not going anywhere would be in the right frame of mind to handle the disappointment.I plan to be in such a mood tomorrow just in case.

Wow! It really is 4/20. Puff puff, give, chief.

I was referring to the peace and tranquility of coloring eggs for Easter.I have no idea what you are talking about.

*We* do, in fact, have a consensus, even if *you* are not part of it.But I think you are part of the consensus, if you are honest. You know damn well that you can't demonstrate answered prayer. You might infer answered prayer from some events but surely you have to admit that prayer is not a reliable problem-solver.

"Soon".That kind of time-table doesn't work well for trains but when there's only one event on the track, there's little danger of collisions.

It's been "Soon" for thousands of years.

After my one mistaken foray into an argument for a particular date I'm back to expecting that the Rapture will come as an absolute surprise to everyone. It WILL come of course, there is no doubt about that, as part of Jesus' return or seven years before it, either way it will come.

Don't beat yourself up about it, fundies like you have been doing it for centuries. It's perfectly normal. As, of course, is your reaction to being wrong which was predicted before it (didn't) happen.It has never happened and it will never happen, but that won't stop a whole new generation of primitives claiming it will happen in their lifetimes and being proven wrong yet again. Being proven wrong doesn't matter to them - or you.

Yes, it's sadly so normal of them, but it shouldn't be. If only they would read the Bible, they would know that it is impossible for them to predict the date for the End Times. Gee, they value that book so much that they practically worship it, yet they cannot be bothered to actually read it.Here's a page which lists verses in the KJV which speak of the End Times coming as a thief in the night; eg:

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"But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only . . . Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up . . . The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,"
Matthew 24:36, 42-43, 50,KJV

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"Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh."
Matthew 25:13,KJV

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"But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things . . . But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is. For the Son of man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and commanded the porter to watch. Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning: Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping. And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch."
Mark 13:23, 32-37,KJV

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"Let your loins be girded about, and your lights burning; And ye yourselves like unto men that wait for their lord, when he will return from the wedding; that when he cometh and knocketh, they may open unto him immediately. Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them. And if he shall come in the second watch, or come in the third watch, and find them so, blessed are those servants. And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through. Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not."
Luke 12:35-40,KJV

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"And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares. For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man."
Luke 21:34-36,KJV

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"When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power."
Acts 1:6-7,KJV

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"But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober."
1 Thessalonians 5:2-6,KJV

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"But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up."
2 Peter 3:10,KJV

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"Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee."
Revelation 3:3,KJV

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"Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame."
Revelation 16:15,KJV

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Not only does the Bible have Jesus himself saying it in all three synoptic Gospels, but it also appears in the very book that deals directly with the End Times, Revelation, which fundamentalists still obsess over (in my time with the Jesus Freaks, c. 1970, they would obsess about two things: demons and End Times prophecies). So I guess their ignorance of what the Bible says demonstrates what they really think of it.

The way we are able to consider dates is by supposing that as the time draws near God will give us a heads-up as is often the case with biblical prophecy. However, He may not.

Admin should change Faiths designation from inactive to raptured. Do you think she we will be back in three days?

A heads-up is hard to see when your head is up your ass.