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Phat Member Posts: 16107 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
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ringo Member Posts: 19784 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 2.8 |
Since it didn't happen, how could it have impact or value?
The belief in Jesus' death, burial and resurrection has had an impact on society. And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member Posts: 19784 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 2.8 |
Do you think He'd tell you something different than what He said 2000 years ago? And our geese will blot out the sun.
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Phat Member Posts: 16107 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Of course I do. That's why many lectures end with a Q & A session. People feel better being able to discuss specific situations with the author rather than simply be told to buy the book on the way out. You and I disagree with this one. You likely wouldn't spend any time talking with me...pointing to the message you wrote 2000 years ago and going off to do other things. The Jesus that I believe in would take the additional time to answer my questions, address my concerns, and clarify what His 2000-year-old message means for me today. Books often get revised.
Messages ultimately come from human lips...they don't just appear in the sky. Edited by Phat, : No reason given. Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
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ringo Member Posts: 19784 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 2.8 |
Jesus did clarify the message for the Pharisees who made the same arguments that you make. There's no lack of clarity in the message. What's lacking is the will to embrace the message. And our geese will blot out the sun.
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Phat Member Posts: 16107 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
![]() Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
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ringo Member Posts: 19784 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 2.8 |
You say that you reject the message. I can only take you at your word. And our geese will blot out the sun.
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Phat Member Posts: 16107 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
I love God. I love my neighbors. If I were guilty of anything, it would be in being selective over whom I help. If a guy comes in our store and steals a bunch of stuff and runs out, I certainly won't give him the same consideration for a handout that I give others whom I see struggling yet respecting society despite being down and out.
To put this in perspective, on my drive o work I see several people whom I recognize on the street...some whom we have encountered in our store. Jesus message was for them to repent as much as it was about me helping the least of them. Again, I may be guilty of being partial to the non-thieves first. Stealing from the store is stealing from the employees. Ultimately, I am not their judge. You will tell me that Jesus expects me not to judge. But I do. Which is one thing I would ask Him to clarify for me in our Q & A. Edited by Phat, : No reason given. Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
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ringo Member Posts: 19784 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 2.8 |
In Luke 10, the priest and the Levite were selective about whom they helped. The Samaritan was not. And our geese will blot out the sun.
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Phat Member Posts: 16107 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
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Tangle Member Posts: 8580 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 3.0 |
It talks about a lot of stuff that you know is garbage. 'The end is nigh.' is just a lie you guys tell each other to keep yourselves frightened enough to believe the rest of it. Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 6837 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 3.5
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Salesmanship 101 Convince the customer they have a need for your product. Can't sell eternal life without the threat of impending death. You know how to tell a salesman is lying? His lips are moving. Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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jar Member Posts: 33957 From: Texas!! Joined: Member Rating: 2.0 |
FUD
Fear Uncertainty & Doubt IBM and NCR became world powers by selling FUD.
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Phat Member Posts: 16107 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
I dont just talk about stuff and lie.
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
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Tangle Member Posts: 8580 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 3.0 |
If the end not nigh, has never been nigh nor isn't going to be nigh until the sun burns out, why are you guys always fantasising about it? It's a lie. Stop doing it.
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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