REMIX: Who Can Be Saved?

Phat writes:How would the motives of the Sheep and Goat sermon matter any more, then?

jar writes:A God cannot die, Jesus did. And Jesus rose from the dead. And the message is "all humans will rise from the dead".

Phat writes:In that case it matters little if and how the Great Commission changed.So what if the deal seems sweeter and easier now? Its hard enough to get people to do anything.

Again, the point is that the Great Commission WAS changed.It is simply additional evidence that the Bible is the product of humans each creating the narrative they want to market.

Phat writes:My point is why should we give any more weight to Matthew 25 than we do to John or Romans?

John 3:16-21 writes:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

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20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

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21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

jar writes:You should look at the whole body of writings and be honest about what is written. You should stop looking for things that can be taken out of context to suit YOUR agenda.

Phat writes: Dont the atheists on The Atheist Experience do the same thing? Does not their show represent an agenda of education and information?

jar writes:You should look at the whole body of writings and be honest about what is written. You should stop looking for things that can be taken out of context to suit YOUR agenda.

Phat writes:You and ringo, in contrast, appear to promote the idea that WE humans are responsible for our future and that no God (or Messiah) is going to rescue us.Granted I see your point and yet do not believe it. You may say that by refusing to accept the facts that lead to your conclusions I am being dishonest with myself and others, but at this point in time, I do not concur.

jar writes: Nor is there any evidence that any God ever came and rescued us

Acts 26:18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.1 Timothy 2:5-6 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.Col 1:12-13 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: