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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1701 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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Phat Member Posts: 18651 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.3 |
I just read an intersting article about a technique known as gaslighting.
used in politics, the article elaborates: Wiki writes: Bryant Welch states in his book State of Confusion: Political Manipulation and the Assault on the American Mind:To say gaslighting was started by the Bushes, Lee Atwater, Karl Rove, Fox News, or any other extant or group is not simply wrong, it also misses an important point. Gaslighting comes directly from blending modern communications, marketing, and advertising techniques with long-standing methods of propaganda. They were simply waiting to be discovered by those with sufficient ambition and psychological makeup to use them. They accuse Trump of gaslighting, but others would defend him in that he is simply using the tools of modern communication. Lets see if the shoe fits.
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The fact remains that the whole narrative about Trump's supposed collusion with Russia was invented to cover Hillary's tracks. How do you know that's a fact? One man's opinion does not prove it.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1701 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
It's been discussed to death for a year now with all the evidence you could ask for, by hundreds of voices of the suppressed "alt-right" media. Flaherty is merely affirming what they all have been saying all that time.
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It's been discussed to death for a year now with all the evidence you could ask for, I'm asking for that evidence... where can I find it? Remember: opinions don't count.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17919 Joined: Member Rating: 6.7
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quote: The fact remains that Mueller was appointed to investigate the Trump links with Russia - and not by the Democrats. The fact remains that members of the Trump campaign have been less than honest about their communications with the Russians. In short the narrative of Trump’s supposed collusion with Russia is not invented, is quite likely true, and has nothing to do with Clinton’s supposed collusion. Really, what is the point of these lies ? They only tell us that you are afraid of what Mueller might uncover.
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Taq Member Posts: 10302 Joined: Member Rating: 7.1 |
Faith writes: You've bought the party line, that's all. The fact is that the whole Trump-Russia story was invented to cover Clinton, it's entirely fake news from beginning to end. The so-called "alt-right" has been saying this for a year at least. It may not "work," of course, as you say, since the truth is often a casualty where powerful people have the means to suppress it. Then show me how those allegations are backed by evidence. Also, show us where Mueller is ordered to investigate Clinton in the mandate he was given by the justice department. Edited by Taq, : No reason given.
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Taq Member Posts: 10302 Joined: Member Rating: 7.1 |
Faith writes: It's been discussed to death for a year now with all the evidence you could ask for, by hundreds of voices of the suppressed "alt-right" media. Flaherty is merely affirming what they all have been saying all that time. Repeating opinions does not make them facts.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1701 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1701 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Ya don't say. Golly I guess I'm really stupid then aren't I?
The point is that we're not just talking about one man's opinion, it helps to read in the context of what is being answered. However, as I said, the evidence has been covered over the last year, starting with the fact that there is absolutely NO evidence of any collusion between Trump and Russia, along with one phony disgusting "dossier" against Trump invented by Democrats, followed by the fact that there's plenty of evidence of Clinton's Russia collusion. You won't find out any of that if all you read is the leftist press. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1701 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I never said Mueller was ordered to investigate Clinton. It wouldn't be an effective coverup in that case.
Show me any evidence of Trump colluding with Russia. There has never been any.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1701 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
They really do know how to cover their tracks well and shovel their own wrongdoings onto Trump. Very well done.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1701 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Oh opinions like Flaherty's which cover a lot of factual information do indeed count.
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Taq Member Posts: 10302 Joined: Member Rating: 7.1
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Faith writes: However, as I said, the evidence has been covered over the last year, starting with the fact that there is absolutely NO evidence of any collusion between Trump and Russia, along with one phony disgusting "dossier" against Trump invented by Democrats, followed by the fact that there's plenty of evidence of Clinton's Russia collusion. You won't find out any of that if all you read is the leftist press. Then show me the evidence instead of just alluding to it.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17919 Joined: Member Rating: 6.7
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quote: Of course in reality Trump isn’t being accused of involvement with the uranium deal or the Fusion GPS dossier. In reality Flaherty trotted out the accusations against Clinton because of actual developments in the Mueller investigation - real news. And he is trying to discredit Mueller because he is afraid of what Mueller will find. It’s not a very clever attempt at a cover up. It works only because the right is steeped in evil and hate and lies. And you are a willing part of that.
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