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Author Topic:   Genesis and Evolution - Tom Larkin
Tom Larkin
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Message 1 of 15 (814935)
07-13-2017 6:48 PM


I have just written this short book that I feel align scripture and evolution, and I would like to get comments from this team. I am more interested in getting the information out and improving it with comments than I am interested in selling books (although it is available on Amazon). If you request a copy I will e-mail the manuscript (it is a short book)
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Tom Larkin
Junior Member (Idle past 2379 days)
Posts: 25
From: Attleboro MA US
Joined: 07-09-2017


Message 3 of 15 (815120)
07-16-2017 3:50 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by New Cat's Eye
07-14-2017 10:07 AM


No, no smooshing. I am just presenting a simple Biblical argument that states the events that occur in Genesis 1 happen before the events of Chapter 2. Men and women were created in Chapter 1 and Adam and Eve were created in chapter 2. If you accept this simple biblical logic, this coincides with recent findings that all men alive are genetically descended from a single man, and all women are descended from a single women. Other men and women were existing at the time of this common descendant (Y chrome Adam and Mitochondrial Eve), which is what the Bible says.
Men and women, I believe through natural mens lived prior to Adam and Eve. This eliminate the conflict between evolution and Genesis.

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Tom Larkin
Junior Member (Idle past 2379 days)
Posts: 25
From: Attleboro MA US
Joined: 07-09-2017


Message 6 of 15 (815234)
07-17-2017 5:19 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by PaulK
07-17-2017 12:16 AM


The dates associated with the MRCA's is not important, what is important is that a Most Recent Common Ancestor existed while other men and women existed. This is only a coincidental argument and not my primary argument.
The dates for the MRCA have changed significantly over the last 5 years and they will continue to do so in the near future.

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Tom Larkin
Junior Member (Idle past 2379 days)
Posts: 25
From: Attleboro MA US
Joined: 07-09-2017


Message 9 of 15 (815238)
07-17-2017 5:35 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by New Cat's Eye
07-16-2017 10:45 PM


My main argument is Biblical. If you don't accept the Bible and Adam and Eve than you already have no conflict with evolution, then you don't need to read further.
My Biblical argument is men and women were created in Chapter 1, Adam, Eve and the garden were created in Chapter 2. The earth and the rest of the universe already existing prior to the events of Chapter 2. The descendants of Adam and Eve were described as the "Sons of God" in Chapter 6 (see Luke 3:38 among many other passages), the descendent of the men and women in Chapter 1 are described as the "daughters of men". It was important that Noah was "perfect in his generation" which said he was a direct descendent of Adam and Eve.
Throughout Genesis, in all genealogies, the line not leading to Jesus is always given first, every time. This is a continuation of that pattern.

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Tom Larkin
Junior Member (Idle past 2379 days)
Posts: 25
From: Attleboro MA US
Joined: 07-09-2017


Message 11 of 15 (815240)
07-17-2017 7:22 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by PaulK
07-17-2017 5:26 PM


It is impossible to prove MRCA to an individual, all that is part of my "coincidental" argument is that MRCA exist when other men and women existed. Ancestry.com only goes back to Methuselah.

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Tom Larkin
Junior Member (Idle past 2379 days)
Posts: 25
From: Attleboro MA US
Joined: 07-09-2017


Message 12 of 15 (815241)
07-17-2017 7:24 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by Taq
07-17-2017 5:24 PM


Do you have a valid scientific source that links pedigree collapse to MRCA?

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