What is Creationism?

I couldn't find this discussed specifically as a topic. So tell me what you think Creationism is and what are the core beliefs? You will also need to say what sort of Creationism you are talking about.
Young Earth, Old Earth, Progressive Creation?
Are Deism, Theistic Evolution, and Intelligent Design forms of Creationism and how do they differ from the others?

Thread copied here from the What is Creationism? thread in the Proposed New Topics forum.

Wow, amazingly a thread on Creationism gets promoted, but we cant discuss and talk about evolution, whether its their beneficial mutations, origins or that their belief that our ancestors are treeshrews.Whats good for the goose should be good for the gander, in open debate. As evolutionists seem to demand answers from creationists, but do not like to answer any questions about their belief system.For ehrein, they will surely come and try to degrade creationism through their continual insistence on answering their questions, but run away in a two sided debate. I wonder why is that ? I think I know..Proveit

I thought topics were suppose to be well defined and narrow in scope, so a focused discussion could be introduced. But CCR, this topic is so broad, any divisions in creationists will easily be mocked by the no answering evolutionists, who have no answers, and yet will demand answers HEREIN and try to separate creationists.I think you fell into their trap....

What's wrong with the dictionary?

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noun
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a person who believes that the universe and living organisms originate from specific acts of divine creation, as in the biblical account.

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And I'm going to agree with Tangle on the definition. When I first came here I said I was a deist and not a creationist, whereupon I was corrected (by Mr. Jack), that as I believed that god/s created the universe that I was de facto a creationist.So yes, the term needs modification for what type of creationism is involved.To me it comes down to how much of the objective empirical evidence one must deny to maintain a position being inversely proportional to the likely possible reality. The more you need to deny (such as all the evidence on the age of the earth, for young earth creationists) the less likely those beliefs are to being true. To me all objective empirical evidence is evidence of reality and thus evidence of the result of creation.Enjoy

Creationism presupposes a Creator. As a Deist, do you believe that the concept of a creator need be a personal One? (The Creator, that is) Wheras David Jay Jordan describes a Creator differently: So within the context of Creationism, we have either a personal relational Creator or a hypothetical nonrelational One who is nonetheless part of reality. Perhaps the relational aspect is the essence of our conversations. For some, the action of creative thought is itself evidence of a Creator. Comments?

I'd have said that the distinctive feature of Creationism is the view that the various kinds of organisms were created separately by God doing miracles. What exactly constitutes a "kind of organism" varies from creationist to creationist.Deists think that God created the universe and then left it alone to run its course. A modern deist would --- perhaps not by definition, but with no exception that I know of --- accept that the universe came into being without life and so would attribute the origin of life to natural causes and the diversity of life to evolution.Intelligent Design does not have a single coherent definition agreed on by all the people who claim to advocate it.Theistic evolutionists accept the facts of evolution, including common descent, and see it as the working-out of God's plan, either because God set the boundary conditions of the universe so it should occur, or by augmenting the theory of evolution with divine intervention as an additional mechanism.

The concept of a Creator need not be limited to an ancient storybook. The concept of creationism presupposes a source of creativity.One may trace the source back to a primordial soup of chemicals. (Matter)Or one may believe that the source is Mind. (Mind over matter)Comments?Edited by Phat, : fixed broken quoteEdited by Phat, : No reason given.

I would say that for a creationist, the Creator supersedes any aspect of reality. At one end of the spectrum you have creationists who reject reality entirely if it disagrees with their religion. At the other end you have creationists who accept science but insist that God did it.

Would you thus argue that creative thought is itself no evidence of a Creator apart from yourself?

Whether or not I call myself a creationist depends on who I'm talking to and what the context is.I accept evolution and I believe in God.I guess, technically, I'm a creationist in that I think God created this.But I'm not a Creationists in the sense of being against evolution.Typically, at least here, a creationist is someone who does not accept evolution because of their belief in God's creation. In that sense, I don't count.

Why would creative thought be evidence of a creator any more than any other human trait? Why wouldn't you tout greed or jealousy as evidence of a creator?

Within this group are the bunch who continuously redefine science and claim that whole branches of science are religion.A fairly large number of the creationists we encounter at EvC insist that evolutionary biologists are all atheists and make erroneous claims about evolution and the theory of evolution.Creationism seems to consist, in large part, in attacks on strawman versions of evolution and attempts to force unevidenced versions of biblical creationism into public schools, especially into science classes.The intelligent design bunch are creationists who have tried to add in the idea that some life processes are too complex to have evolved. When you actually see what they are writing it is clear that it's plain old creationism with a few new sciencey sounding magical concepts carefully arranged to try and fool the courts into letting them teach it in public school science classes.

For me, creativity requires submission to a source that is not my self.You gotta find that muse, and then let it speak to you.It feels foreign.I don't really ever feel greed or jealousy, so I dunno. Other traits just kinda come and go, but creativity requires active participation on my part.