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Author Topic:   Evolution is a racist doctrine
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Message 245 of 404 (807464)
05-03-2017 9:22 AM
Reply to: Message 244 by Davidjay
05-03-2017 9:01 AM

Just a note on your first sentence here as I don't have enough time to address your second or subsequent ones.
I think it is important to state that evolution is not the product of luck (ie "a lot of lucky things happened and here I stand") but of selection for fitness. So if a population is well adapted and produces a lot of offspring, it will likely be able to out-compete others who are less well adapted and produce fewer offspring, all things being equal. The well adapted population aren't lucky, per se, they are simply fitter. It is expected that they will be more successful. There is still room for chance and luck, but usually the other way round, that is, a fitter population could, by chance, be wiped out by a cataclysm, and then the less fit population would likely survive. But this effect of chance is contrary to the effect of evolutionary processes.
Secondly, I think it is a big leap to go from "evolution operates without morals" to "people who believe evolution is true operate without morals". If I were to accuse someone who believed in Satan of being without moral fibre purely because they believed in Satan's existence, it would be rightly viewed as a non-sequitur. I think the relationship between evolution and "evolutionists" is effectively the same.

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Message 253 of 404 (807506)
05-03-2017 11:40 AM
Reply to: Message 246 by Davidjay
05-03-2017 9:41 AM

Re: Sex evolved ?????????
you give divine animation to selection as if it is a God
I suppose you mean people who think evolution is true imbue selection with some kind of mystical power or something? I can't speak for anyone else but I don't think I revere it any more than I revere any other cool mechanism that seems to work, like air hockey tables or cuckoo clocks. Nobody thinks it is sentient. It is just a mechanism.
Please establish how evolution could have ever simulataneously mutated different genders, at the same time magically so they fit together magically and reproduce perfectly as can be seen today.
I don't know how sexual reproduction began. But I don't think anyone argues that it came about by sudden and spontanious compatible penis and vagina mutations in fish or trilobites or something. Sexual reproduction has been about for a very long time, long before complex organisms evolved. I don't find it rouses that much incredulity in me to think of some kind of other reproductive behaviour could evolve into what we see as sexual reproduction.
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