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RAZD Member (Idle past 1576 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
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Stile Member (Idle past 215 days) Posts: 4295 From: Ontario, Canada Joined:
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One of the more geologically-inclined can correct me if I'm wrong.
But that red rock, to my untrained-amateurish eyes, looks like the same red rock that covers most of Northern Ontario too.That is... the rock dubbed The Canadian Shield. Once you get... say... 3-4 hours north of Toronto... you can't move 20 feet without running into 10s-of-meters-thick slabs of this red rock everywhere. For thousands of miles.
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1.61803 Member (Idle past 1675 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined:
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I think I can see it RAZD! It's Alive!!!!!!!"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs
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caffeine Member (Idle past 1195 days) Posts: 1800 From: Prague, Czech Republic Joined:
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But that red rock, to my untrained-amateurish eyes, looks like the same red rock that covers most of Northern Ontario too. That is... the rock dubbed The Canadian Shield. It is, indeed, part of the Canadian Shield; as this includes some of the largest known areas of exposed Archaean rock (meaning rock more than 2,500 million years old) in the world. Found a nice map on a blog about geology. The grey bits are surface exposures of rocks formed in the Archaean. These fossils(?) were found just on the eastern edge of Hudson bay.
Edited by caffeine, : East is East
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1576 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
... It's Alive!!!!!!! Yes, I thought the BBC news piece on it was a little over the top hype etc, talking as if these were actual fossils of critters, whereas what you are seeing is purportedly the byproducts of activity. What is not determined that I can see is: is it prebiotic (organic chemistry) activity or full blown life. Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1576 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Here's the Nature article
quote: Slightly different take ... at least 3.77 billion years old, observations "consistent with an oxidized biomass" Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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CRR Member (Idle past 2413 days) Posts: 579 From: Australia Joined: |
They are tiny graphite deposits and hematite tubes which the authors think are biogenically created. The first thing to do is wait and see if this is actually accepted as evidence of life. It might be just another false alarm or equivocal.
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Pressie Member (Idle past 146 days) Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
Hey, CRR. How do we quantify the genetic information of those fossils (if indeed they are)?
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CRR Member (Idle past 2413 days) Posts: 579 From: Australia Joined: |
None, since there are no genes.
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Pressie Member (Idle past 146 days) Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
Ah, great. Now how do we determine whether those fossils had more or less genetic information than those prokareotes living today? Quantities, please.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1576 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
this is Links and Information forum, not a debate forum
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1576 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
They are tiny graphite deposits and hematite tubes which the authors think are biogenically created. The first thing to do is wait and see if this is actually accepted as evidence of life. It might be just another false alarm or equivocal. That is my concern as well. Also I wonder if pre-biotic activity could also generate those same signals, the "RNA world" and self-replicating molecules -- see Self-Replicating Molecules - Life's Building Blocks (Part II) for discussion. Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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CRR Member (Idle past 2413 days) Posts: 579 From: Australia Joined:
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Thanks for pointing that out. I hadn't noticed the difference.
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Pressie Member (Idle past 146 days) Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
Hey CRR. Please quantify genetic information.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1576 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Links and Information not a debate forum
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