Re: Islam history; Muslim supports terrorism; how to vet refugees
That's pretty distorted. She may not have -quite- made it up but there are substantial omissions and some big exaggerations in there.
Why do you expect anyone to fall for this crude propaganda which can easily be seen to be false ? You may be allergic to fact-checking but the rest of us certainly aren't.
Re: Islam history; Muslim supports terrorism; how to vet refugees
Faith writes:
You are the one who is making shit up as usual. As I said her account is well known. You need to learn a few things about Islam.
Her lies are oft repeated, that is true. But some of us don't relying on videos and actually read things like the Bible and the Qur'an and history books.
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LOL
My evidence is the actual history. When the Jews were driven out of Spain it was the Caliph of Constantinople (it was a Muslim area then) sent ships to bring the Jews back to the middle east. Until 1099 when the Crusaders conquered Palestine the Jews and Muslims had lived together peacefully. Try reading A History of Palestine, 634-1099 by Moshe Gil for a recent work on the subject, but believe it or not, everything I've mention was taught in my Christian High School history classes.
Re: Islam history; Muslim supports terrorism; how to vet refugees
The standard histories of Islam are false, whitewashed. Gabriel's verslon is severely shortened but it doesn't leave out anything important. The history of Islam is one long jihad. We fool ourselves if we think they are willing to live and let live. As always, from the beginning, they seek the subjugation or death of nonMuslims. Funny, the evidence is everywhere and yet westerners deny it. Weird.
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Fake news there. Telling the truth, and resisting the Muslim narrative does not recruit Muslims, it gets them to back off. You guys are such patsies.
It wasn't presented as news. That's a key factor in fake news. Calling everything you disagree with as 'fake news' is silly. If it comes from an outlet claiming to be news, then you are at least not making a category error, but calling what I said 'fake news' is absurd.
Saying that true Islam is Wahhabism is what the Wahhabist recruiters do. Saying ISIS represents true Islam is what ISIS do. What are the chances you'll abandon your faith, Faith? Zero. The 'best case' scenario is that Muslims will see your 'compelling argument' or 'declarations of truth' and think to themselves 'Well if ISIS is true Islam, and I am a Muslim, I should join and/or materially support ISIS'. Which is the tactic the recruiters use.
Hence: you are going the work of terrorist recruiters. You are the patsy. You have been driven to spread radical Islamic propaganda.
I don't think "innuendo" is the word for what Horowitz did.
innuendo: an allusive or oblique remark or hint, typically a suggestive or disparaging one.
Yes, it was.
A group that says they are :
quote:committed to ending Israel’s occupation and colonization of all Arab lands and dismantling the Separation Wall. It recognizes the fundamental rights of the Arab-Palestinian citizens of Israel to full equality. It calls for respecting, protecting and promoting the rights of Palestinian refugees to return to their homes and properties as stipulated in United Nations General Assembly Resolution 194
Is not remotely like the Hitler Youth.
It was truthful and clever, and even funny.
It was stupid, manipulative and lying. That's why you can't show how it is true - because it isn't.
This is too much for anyone to be willing to listen to, and since a lot of it is Warner's own research I'm not going to vouch for it, but he covers a lot of history in very specific detail, the conquests of city after city after city for instance. He's read up on all of them, every individual case, and boiled it all down to one linear history of Islam in its relentless conquests, which are continuing today. He debunks the Golden Age.
Re: Islam history; Muslim supports terrorism; how to vet refugees
And how do you know that the standard histories are "whitewashed" ?
And how would Gabriel know any better ? She is, after all, a reporter not a historian and one who might be expected to have something of a chip in her shoulder.
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I know how it is true, but there was nothing to show, what I posted is all there was. But I understand the history of Palestine and the Muslim lies that oh so many leftist patsies believe.
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I know how it is true, but there was nothing to show, what I posted is all there was.
How do you know it is true, then?
But I understand the history of Palestine and the Muslim lies that oh so many leftist patsies believe.
In what way is this specific group like the Hitler Youth so much that characterising it as 'Hitler Youth Week' is not, in fact, slanderous and filthy lies - to use your terminology.
Re: Islam history; Muslim supports terrorism; how to vet refugees
I know how it is true, but there was nothing to show, what I posted is all there was.
How do you know it is true, then?
What I posted did not include Horowitz's comment about Hitler Youth Week.
I know a lot about the situation in Palestine that makes his comment appropriate.
But I understand the history of Palestine and the Muslim lies that oh so many leftist patsies believe.
In what way is this specific group like the Hitler Youth so much that characterising it as 'Hitler Youth Week' is not, in fact, slanderous and filthy lies - to use your terminology.
Hitler was supported by Arabs in the Middle East. Is that news to you?
There is no such thing as a Palestinian people. That was an invention pasted onto the refugees that left Israel when the Arab nations warned them they were going to attack. The refugees had come from all over the Middle East to work in Israel, they were not "Palestinians" until there was a political reason to call them that in order to try to discredit Israel. Israel won the war as it's won all its wars since becoming a state. That left the refugees outside with no place to go. They could of course have been absorbed into other Arab nations, but that wouldn't have served the project of discrediting Israel. So nobody would take them in. They've been left there, with a bogus history spun around them as "Palestinians" to be a thorn in the side of Israel. They are pawns of the Arab nations.
Their goal is and always was to annihilate Israel. It fits with their support of Hitler. "Hitler Youth" works fine as a term for a student organization about "justice" in "Palestine" that of course supports all the fake history I just recounted.
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Hitler was supported by Arabs in the Middle East. Is that news to you?
There were Americans in the US who supported Hitler. Is that news to you ? And there were Americans who got into trouble for opposing Hitler - and that trouble came AFTER the war. Does that surprise you ?
And, of course, "supporting Hitler" can mean many things. In WWII the US supported Stalin.
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There is no such thing as a Palestinian people. That was an invention pasted onto the refugees that left Israel when the Arab nations warned them they were going to attack. The refugees had come from all over the Middle East to work in Israel, they were not "Palestinians" until there was a political reason to call them that in order to try to discredit IsraeL
There are two major falsehoods here. First, many Palestinians were driven out by the Israeli army. Second, there was a substantial Arab population living in Palestine even under the Ottomans. (The rest is spin based solely on the fact that Palestine was not a nation - it had been part of the Ottoman Empire prior to WWI and under control of the victors afterwards)
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