What's the difference between Islam and Radical Islam?

Congratulations, you've just helped the jihadists and ultra-conservatives in their cause through your affirmation. Nice work. *facepalm* "Hitler Youth Week" was the slanderous characterisation used by Horowitz that she was quoting him on. The actual event was "Justice in Palestine Week".Edited by Modulous, : No reason given.

I dunno, but it makes them more relevant.What's the point of comparing dead jews to modern muslims? That's almost as bad as murdering people...

To what? I'm comparing radical and violent religiopolitical views and actions. Because the topic is about the difference between non radical and radical Islam I thought it useful to show the difference between another religious group that has had radical and violent elements in it. The time those elements existed hardly seems particularly relevant. I know, right? It's almost as if when some people go around saying that when Muslim immigrants do these things it is evidence of Islamic migration is destroying our culture are engaging in hyperbole and fearmongering. Damn - it's almost if I was trying to set that kind of point up by utilizing a group Conservatives are less inclined to criticize.

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A Muslim could say that we should treat women equally, but that isn't anything that is inherent to Islam.

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Ask Pastor Stephen Anderson and you'll find him saying that it isn't a tenet of Christianity. Ask the Haredi jews and you'll see they say that isn't a tenet of Judaism.

She's right, Wahhabiism and ISIS represent the true Islam of Mohammed.; She made the point. Most sane people know this already.Oh, too bad I missed Horowitz's clever characterization, and of course he's right, "Justice in Palestine Week" promoted by the MSA is certainly well translated as "Hitler Youth Week." Clever of him.

Well no Faith, she's not right and no sane person would believe her. For Mohammed, Jews and Christians are not infidels and are people of the Book since all three religions worship the same God. Most sane honest people know this already. Only a bigot and liar would translate that like that.

Obviously you didn't bother to listen to her talk.

Only a leftist character assassin would call him a liar and a bigot.

You are correct. You see I actually know what Mohammad believed and the history of the Caliphate and don't need stupid videos.

Or someone who was sane and honest.

The, according to the OP, issue that keeps coming up.What's the deal with all these radical muslims?"The jews were bad too 80 years ago" doesn't seem very relevant to me. You disguised a bunch of jewish violence as being muslim and then made it a big joke.Sorry for not getting it. That seems disingenuous, but I suppose it could be a fruitful effort. So, what? Depends on the goal, but I suppose I'm missing the point. Sorry, the pic is blocked. I'll see it later. Well it went over my head.And I still don't how 80 year old jewish violence should matter in a discussion about muslim violence today."There's some muslims being bad, what's that about?"
"Yeah, well the jews were bad too!"
"Okay, so there's some muslims being bad, what's that about?" Radical!

As she recounted the history -- and you can get this history in many places, she didn't make it up -- go listen to the first few minutes where she says the first twelve years of Islam were peaceful because Mohammed couldn't get more than a few family members to buy it. Then he got the bright idea of getting Jews to accept it, so he said nice things about the Jews, called them the People of the Book, and he added stuff to the Koran from the Old Testament, also added some Jewish laws to his religion, such as not eating pork, praying twice a day, fasting on a special religious holiday etc. Trying to make it appeal to the Jews of the city of Medina. When they refused it he slaughtered them. He went on slaughtering. That's how Islam became a religion of hating Jews and Christians, turning them into dhimmis etc. You really should learn a few things about Islam.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

My point wasn't that 'the jews were bad too 80 years ago'. My point was, as I said, to highlight what the deal with radical religious types is. Political context, social forces of a certain time and place. That stuff that we use today to understand the Irgun's and IRA's of yesterday. No problem. The entire point was that some people wouldn't get it, so that I could explain to them that the takeaway of Irgun should not be Judaism is intrinsically bad, and can erupt in violence at any time therefore we should be fearful and suspicious of Jews but instead that socio-political forces can turn people violent and their religion is merely a framework they use to justify their violence. So don't apologize, thank you for taking the step that allowed me to do this. Have you ever noticed that religious extremists always seem to have temporal grievances like territorial and community safety/integrity concerns at their root, rather than a specific religion?Maybe that's what the 'deal is' with 'all these radical muslims'? The goal is to discuss the origins and motivations for radical extremists of all colours, but particularly those of a religious group. It's a silly gif indicating essentially 'yes good point': don't fret. ‘Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.’Understanding why humans acted before matters when trying to understand why they are acting in a similar way today. Is this point really that subtle?

Faith, that is what she asserts happened not what actually happened. She is simply like all apologists making shit up. Again Faith, that is simply made up shit and reality and facts and honesty totally refute it.When Christianity was burning Jews and driving them from their homes it was the Muslim Caliphate that sent ships to rescue them. The Jews and Muslims lived together for over a thousand years with the Muslims actually guaranteeing the safe passage of Christians and Jews to visit the Sacred Shrines of the Middle east and to protect those holy places.Your problem is you listen to videos from all the nutjobs out there.Go to a mosque. Sit down with the Imam and actually learn something.

Still doing the terrorist recruiters work for them? I'm sure that'll work out well. I think the word you are looking for, to quote you, is 'Woops.' Of course, when the right uses innuendo and slander to smear Muslims it's clever. When the left do it to Christians, its disgusting. I didn't expect any less from you.

Fake news there. Telling the truth, and resisting the Muslim narrative does not recruit Muslims, it gets them to back off. You guys are such patsies.I don't think "innuendo" is the word for what Horowitz did. But what he did was truthful, unlike the anti-Christian stuff you are talking about. It was truthful and clever, and even funny.