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Stile
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Message 1 of 38 (798244)
02-01-2017 10:21 AM


This thread is just for me to test to see if I can post to the board.
My issues are sort of summarized here: Message 432
But I'm pretty sure the issue is on my end, nothing to do with the board software.
I'm using a laptop on a certain-domain at a non-normal site going through the internet on a different domain.
I think there's security/configuration issues internal to the site I'm at that's confusing certain things.
Being able to post "somewhere" on the board seems to flush the problem through and allow to post where I originally wanted to.
So, in order to not clutter up other areas, I'll dump a few "test" messages to this thread when I require them.
Stupid computers.
"Wave of the future" they said.
"Make everything easier" they said.
Punch in the nose! Says I.

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Stile
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Message 2 of 38 (798284)
02-01-2017 3:24 PM


*grumbles*

  
AZPaul3
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Message 3 of 38 (798288)
02-01-2017 3:31 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Stile
02-01-2017 10:21 AM


Damn Computers
I hate these damn computers. I wish they wouldn't sell them.
They never do quite what I want, but only what I tell them.
Your network is not experiencing any bugs. It's just spontaneously developing random new features.
Most of all, remember, the problem with attempts at troubleshooting is that sometimes trouble shoots back.
Good luck to you.


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Stile
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Message 4 of 38 (800017)
02-19-2017 11:07 AM


Silly test.

  
Percy
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Message 5 of 38 (802565)
03-17-2017 6:45 PM


˙ʇsǝʇ ɐ ʎןuo sı sıɥʇ ˙ʇsǝʇ ɐ sı sıɥʇ

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Message 6 of 38 (802601)
03-18-2017 12:22 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Stile
02-01-2017 10:21 AM


I thought you were going to test us for stupidity. I was all ready to demonstrate mine.

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Stile
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Message 7 of 38 (802701)
03-19-2017 10:20 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by Percy
03-17-2017 6:45 PM


If anyone's wondering, I did notice a minor thing that's not-entirely-related-to-my-system:
As long as I did things like this, I have no problems:
Go to All Topics.
Right click and open-in-new-tab any thread I want to read (by right-clicking on the blue 'unread-message' arrow on the far left).
Read whatever tabs I have open.
See something I want to reply to.
Open reply (in same tab thread exists in my browser, not a new-tab this time) using message's direct reply-to-specific-post button.
Make reply post text.
Usually click Preview button a few times.
Using my all encompassing knowledge of everything, my reply is perfect and I complete it successfully at this stage.
Click Submit Reply button.
Reply posts... and everything works great.
However, if I do this, then things mess up:
Go to All Topics.
Right click and open-in-new-tab any thread I want to read (by right-clicking on the blue 'unread-message' arrow on the far left).
Read whatever tabs I have open.
See something I want to reply to.
Open reply (in same tab thread exists in my browser, not a new-tab this time) using message's direct reply-to-specific-post button.
Make reply post text.
Identify that I'm stupid can't remember what I'm replying to somewhere else.
From the same existing tab I'm in (currently with reply editing box open) I right click on the thread name near the top where all the blue text with -> arrows is. Here, it would be the text saying "Stile's Stupid Test Thread". I right click on the thread name and open the thread in another new tab. In that new tab... I re-read the thread, perhaps look at some message-that-I'm-not-specifically-replying-to, maybe copy some text and paste it back over into my reply-tab (still open).
...this is usually where things go wrong.
Might click Preview button or maybe I'm super-confident and jump straight to the Submit Reply button...
...but post never posts... I get the errors I'm describing above and I generally have to post somewhere else, and/or restart my PC to correct the problem and go back to normal.
This isn't something new, either. This is how I've replied to threads for years and it's always worked with no issues in the past. I'm just seeing this strange-ness recently.
Anyway, I'm fine just not-opening-the-existing-thread-from-my-reply-tab and I don't seem to run into the issue any more.

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Percy
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Message 8 of 38 (802726)
03-19-2017 5:33 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by Stile
03-19-2017 10:20 AM


Just a test post following along in your 2nd set of instructions...
Opened thread in another tab, am pasting text from that tab:
So, in order to not clutter up other areas, I'll dump a few "test" messages to this thread when I require them.
Clicked preview once...
Clicked preview again...
Submitting reply now...

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Percy
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Message 9 of 38 (802730)
03-19-2017 5:42 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by Stile
03-19-2017 10:20 AM


Sorry, I'm unable to replicate. The gateway timeout problem usually means that a website has gone down, but from what you describe that doesn't seem to be the case, and EvC hasn't gone down that I know of in quite some time, knock on wood. Your suspicion of a security problem seems possible, but I don't know for sure. If you learn more about the problem then post again.
--Percy

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Stile
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Message 10 of 38 (827993)
02-07-2018 10:24 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by Stile
03-19-2017 10:20 AM


Post test.
I'm still having the same problem (attempted to try it again, and ended up with same issue).
And I'm still pretty sure the problem is unique to my internet-connection-situation.
Regardless... just posting to push one through.

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Stile
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From: Ontario, Canada
Joined: 12-02-2004


Message 11 of 38 (827996)
02-07-2018 10:38 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by Stile
02-07-2018 10:24 AM


Well, this sucks.
I post here... and I can reply to Taq here: Message 13
But I still get the Gateway Timeout when attempting to reply to Taq here: Message 11
Time for a reboot to see if that helps...

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Diomedes
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Message 12 of 38 (827999)
02-07-2018 11:13 AM
Reply to: Message 11 by Stile
02-07-2018 10:38 AM


Have you tried clearing your browser cache or trying a different browser?
Being that the issue seems to be related to just one EVC thread, it leads me to believe it may be a caching issue specific to that thread itself. That can happen sometimes if there is an image on the rendered HTML that is causing issues.

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Stile
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Message 13 of 38 (828001)
02-07-2018 11:32 AM
Reply to: Message 12 by Diomedes
02-07-2018 11:13 AM


Diomedes writes:
Have you tried clearing your browser cache?
Yes. No help.
or trying a different browser?
I think this would cure the problem.
Possibly even a new computer as well (my current laptop is 5+ years old).
However, as my Message 1 says, I'm basically on a 3rd party laptop using someone else's domain.
On top of that, the "someone else's" domain is getting stricter and stricter on the controls they're allowing on their network. For instance, whenever I boot my 3rd party laptop, my 3rd party domain tries to connect to the current domain. Obviously it can't. And then something on my 3rd party laptop attempts to login into the current domain with credentials close-enough (or possible correct ones, I haven't figured this out yet) and gets my current-domain user name locked up for attempting too many failed logins.
Anyway, if I use Chrome on my 3rd party laptop... it doesn't get past the user-credentials required to access the internet.
For some reason, old Internet Explorer doesn't have this issue and I am allowed to access the internet.
So I've tried a different browser, but it got jammed before I could even test it out on the problems I'm having at evcforum.net.
With all this junk going on, I am very convinced that the issue is on my end and not something with evcforum.net.

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Diomedes
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Message 14 of 38 (828036)
02-08-2018 9:46 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by Stile
02-07-2018 11:32 AM


Hi Stile.
Have you tried using Chrome in 'Ingognito' mode? You do that by pressing Ctrl-Shift-N after launching Chrome. What that basically does is null out any previous caching, cookies, etc.
You can give that a try and then navigate to the EVC site in ingognito mode (note you will need to login) and then try the EVC operations that were failing originally in Chrome in standard mode. If they work, that likely means Chrome is in some bad state. If they don't work, or you encounter similar issues, it likely means that the issue is more network or hardware/OS specific.
Edited by Diomedes, : No reason given.

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Stile
Member (Idle past 232 days)
Posts: 4295
From: Ontario, Canada
Joined: 12-02-2004


Message 15 of 38 (828037)
02-08-2018 10:33 AM
Reply to: Message 14 by Diomedes
02-08-2018 9:46 AM


Diomedes writes:
Have you tried using Chrome in 'Ingognito' mode?
No, I haven't.
But, actually, regular Chrome is working now.
Usually, if I tried to go anywhere in Chrome, it would ask me for my credentials (domain verifies if user has access to internet over a proxy connection).
When I enter my creds into Chrome, it never worked.
When I enter my creds into IE, it worked.
But just now, I entered my creds into normal-Chrome again and it worked fine.
I've tried this off-and-on for the last few years with Chrome and it's never worked. I'm surprised (and happy) that it's working now.
If you're wondering, I understand how to enter my credentials for the correct domain (domain\username as opposed to just "username" on it's own - which would use my local PC creds which would not work).
But.. yay! Chrome seems to work fine using my correct their-domain user credentials.
This will likely make many things easier for me here. Even work-related things!

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