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I'm sorry, huh? What is there problem with it?It would negatively influence their ability to give advice to clients who cannot pay for their advice? Or cannot pay for the recommendation of the advice?

Thanks for the link, there was another link in there that explained the concern from the advisors point of view (sorry, I've been really busy and not really paying attention to the news).I can't tell if that line of thought is disingenuous or not, though.In one sense, I get where I might want my financial advisor to *not* take my best interest as a first priority - which is when I want to gamble. I would be a little pissed if I asked him for advice on a gamble and he could only reply: "Sorry, by law I can only inform you that gambling on this is not in your best interest." And then if I was like: 'Dude, I'll pay you for your opinion on this one", and then he had to reply: "Sorry, that's illegal", then, yeah, that would be pretty annoying.I get the idea against the boiler room stuff, that's a no brainer.

I'd love to see Sessions get fired.

Meh, I don't really care.

It's like Punk Rock - I know it's shitty, but it's still kinda fun

The link in the article that they referenced as "last month" was from 2016...

Are you saying there wasn't a single non-Nazi in the group? And if the counter protesters hadn't showed up then nothing would have came of it and nobody would have gotten hurt, just like all the other KKK rallies that go on that nobody cares about. You're advocating violence against free speech that you dislike. Please stay in Canada.If someone is saying something that you don't like, stay away and ignore them. Don't feed the flames you dinguses.

Or the neo-nazis were siding with them... If neo-nazis love maple syrup does Canada need to stop eating it? 'Cause according to you, you'd be siding with FUCKING NAZIS... In America? Sure it does. You're advocating violence against what you think are nazis - because you dislike what they're saying.What if you're getting Poe'd? If some cheeky asshole gives a Bellamy salute, that doesn't make him literally a Nazi. And you shouldn't be punching them.Too, Leftists are literally calling for communism - and communists were just as murderous as the Nazis, if not more.Do you also justify punching people wearing Che shirts?What about this person: You gonna punch them too?

The KKK is a dying piece of shit and all y'all are doing is keeping it alive.

And yet they just posted that if there are 10 people and one Nazi then you have 11 Nazis. And then, apparently, you can get started with the punching. Great, just stop calling for and bringing violence.Too, painting with a broad brush and poisoning the well makes y'all look just as hateful as those you oppose... and hypocritical.

In Message 1103, I wrote:

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I think probably most people share my own reaction to this of, "The maple syrup comment makes no sense, and DrJones* wasn't implying anything like that anyway."

And yet they just posted that if there are 10 people and one Nazi then you have 11 Nazis. And then, apparently, you can get started with the punching.

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I'm going to clarify further::Up-front disclosure: I don't support the alt-right. This is just a point of principle.That point is: A terrible group, in this case neo-nazis, joining your side in something does not make you a member of that group and does not make your side automatically wrong.On top of that, you shouldn't advocate violence against a person just because you think they are a member of a group, even if it is neo-nazis - you could be wrong and violence isn't the answer.So, to further clarify I'm going to use Arnold Schwarzenegger's message to Trump about this. Have you seen it? I agree. But if some asshole decides to bring that flag to a march I want to participate in for different reasons, then there actually is more than one side.They'd be choosing to march with me, I didn't choose to march with them. If I'm marching for something, then I don't want to be at home. Just because some asshole with a flag shows up doesn't mean I should stop. Consider some neo-nazis showing up to a BLM protest against the police because they agreed - would you expect the BLM protesters to go home?If I was marching, I would yell at a nazi-flag-bearer, and tell them to fuck off and get the fuck out. But I wouldn't go home if it was something that I thought was worth marching for (more disclosure: practically, that is nothing that I think is actually plausible). I wouldn't punch anybody that didn't AssaultMe^{which is loaded and complex - and beside the point}, though, and I don't think anyone should advocate otherwise.I'm on board for "leaving the terrible ghosts of the past in the trash heap of history", but I think that we shouldn't bury our trash and forget about it - and tearing old monuments down is stupid. But that is not something I'm worth marching for. And cities can do what they want with their shit. But the calls for violence need to stop.Hrm, what do you think about this:If thinking that a person is a nazi means that you are justified in punching them, then wouldn't that make calling someone a nazi a punch-able offense? Especially if you're wrong about them? If people thinking that I'm a nazi means that I'm gonna start getting punched, then if you started calling me a nazi I would feel justified in starting to punch you in defense. Isn't that fair?Yeah, how about we just don't start any punching? And how about we all stop advocating violence against people that we think are members of a group?ABE: Edited by New Cat's Eye, : No reason given.

So therefore, logically: If you are marching for something, and people show up agreeing with you that are carrying nazi flags and chanting naughty words, then that makes you a nazi too and I am justified in punching you if you do not leave?

A bit of both, I suppose. There is a point of principle: If you have 10 people and 1 nazi shows up, you do not, actually, have 11 nazis.Too, at the Unite the Right rally, I'm sure there were attendees who simply wanted to protest the removal of the statue and had no interest in racism.Just because some assholes show up doesn't make the other people assholes too.The counter protesters lumped everyone into one group and called for violence against them all. They should be ashamed of themselves.

I already replied to that point in Message 1106.

Well, I thinks it is stupid to tear down old statues. And I don't give a shit if some asshole also thinks that. The stated reason for the protest was not tearing a statue down. If some assholes show up to display their anti-semitism, that doesn't mean I have to no longer want to preserve the statue. Hadn't thought of it, but let me use that to further illustrate my point:The natives were protesting the pipeline.
Say some neo-nazis show up who also do not want the pipeline and stand with the natives.
Some leftists are saying that makes the natives neo-nazis as well. I don't agree.
Other leftists would present two choices to the natives:
1. Just leave - I don't think they should have to stop fighting against the pipeline.
2. Join the other side - I don't think they should have to start supporting the pipeline.I think they also have the option of ignoring the neo-nazis, or telling them to fuck off, and then just keep doing what they're doing.The problem is that leftists will start calling them NAZIS and think it is okay to start punching them.That is unacceptable.There are, actually, more than two sides in that situation.Make sense?