A Believers Critique Of The Humanist Manifesto

The state's definition of marriage is irrelevant when there is a definition given by God, and it's God's Christians are obliged to honor: marriage is beteween one man and one woman, period.

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What did I say about you on my blog? I know it wasn't a *** because I don't ***, but I don't remember it. Is that why you've been so unbelievably nasty to me all these years?

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You don’t lie? That’s a contender for the biggest lie on this forum.If I recall correctly it was the assertion that I wouldn’t ,eat you have your beliefs. Which was completely untrue.And no, I haven’t been unbelievably nasty to you. You’re the nastiest regular poster on this site.

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Stop ***** about me. There is no discrimination against gays as such, they are not barred from anything anyone else may enjoy. Marriage is not for gays.

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So there you are demanding that the state discriminate against gays based purely on your religious belief. Which has no place in US law.
Again, it is purely a matter of secular law.

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Stop ***** about me. I support Trump for his policies, for objecting to abortion, for wanting orderly legal immigration, for wanting a wall at our souther bordern, for improving the economy, putting millions to work, taking them off food stamps, above all and primarily for loving America and putting American interests above all others.

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Well let me point out that he’s been putting his own interests ahead of America’s in the Ukraine, and likely in other areas (like the tax. cuts). The wall is a silly waste of money - if it was cost-effective it would have been done earlier.

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He has done nothing wrong in all the Left's attempts to hang something on him

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He’s done a number of wrong things. Most of them weren’t serious enough to get past his supporters in the Senate.

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... He did nothing wrong in the phone call, and he'd already been exonerated of any wrongdoinjg by the Mueller report: no collusion, no obstruction of justice, Now they are trying to find something else

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Because making military aid dependent on personal favours isn’t wrong ? Even when it is important for American interests? There’s a reason why that transcript was misclassifued. And Mueller did find evidence of collusion and obstruction of justice.

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Everythign they find is something they invent to be something it isn't. They call it impeachable but it's not. Oh they may impeach him anyway and get away with it but all that means is that America is dead.

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Why would America be dead if a rogue President is impeached? That’s why impeachment is in the Cinstitution. And which of Trump’s policies - that you care about - would stop if Pence replaced Trump? I can’t imagine Pence doing less about abortion. .

Sorry Faith but reality once again simply says you are wrong. It's fine for the God you made up to determine the rules for your cult but you do not get to redefine marriage for anyone else.Reality Faith. Marriage is a State Licensed legal contract.NEITHER YOU OR THE GOD YOU CREATED GET TO REDEFINE THIS.

That's a very modern romantic concept. Throughout most of human history, including Biblical history, marriage was an agreement between two men - a father paying another man to take his daughter off his hands.

It's no longer a free country so I'm not allowed to obey God over the state, which means I'll obey God if I'm put in the position to choose, and take my punishment.

Gen 2:24
Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

Jacob bought his wife. In fact, Laban pulled the old bait-and-switch and Jacob had to buy two wives. He also cleaved unto two servant girls.

I didn't say they OBEYED the law, I merely stated the law.

Of course this is still a free country but while you are free to make up any God you want that does not mean you are free to break the laws of the State.

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It's no longer a free country so I'm not allowed to obey God over the state...

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Just like the segregationists. But you’re fine with that. Why should you be treated any differently from them ?

It's not a law. The Commandments mention no such law.

Of course it's still a free country. You are free to obey your god to your hearts content. No one is going to deny you that right.But everyone else is also free to obey their own gods or lack thereof without any interference from you.

Recognize there is no such law except for you christians. Your laws do not apply to the rest of us. You can no longer dictate to the rest of non-christian society. Hell, you folk can't even dictate to your own anymore. 10,000 cults and everyone is different. Just like all the rest of the christian cults yours is a minority with no more say on the greater church than I.Obey what you want how you want but don't expect the rest of us to follow.Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

Not all Christians, just some of the CCoI cult Christians.

That was quite a rant.l To no good purpose that I can see since I said absolutely nothing that applies to anyone but myself and others who belive what I believe. And what I believe is based on the Bible so any cults that don't accept the Bible or interpret away the passage about marriage are not included. It's all about those who believe what I believe based on the Bible, and that is that God has defined marriage and it's only for male with female, period. And if the secular government defines it some other way then I and all those who believe as I do will disobey it in order to obey God. That's it. Do as you please, I never said you should do anything different.Ha ha! I see Percy has been having himself a good old time censoring every single word I write. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.