Evidence that the Great Unconformity did not Form Before the Strata above it

Yup, yet another guess that explains nothing.What is the model, method, mechanism, process or procedure that allows your magic flood to only deposit any humans or lions or tigers or bears or bunnies or ohmys in the uppermost strata just before the Flood waters receded, the water taking a great deal of those layers with it into the ocean, or perhaps into huge rubble piles here and there where anything organic would have rotted away rather than being fossilized. Again, why did no humans or lions or tigers or bears or bunnies or ohmys get included? Yet no humans or lions or tigers or bears or bunnies or ohmys get included?

Yet again, what is the model, mechanism, method, process or procedure that allows your magic flood to separate all modern life forms and segregate them into the uppermost strata which washed away into the ocean or rubble piles where they all rotted away?

Once again, that is simply not true Faith.The truth is that no one has ever been able to provide a model, method, mechanism, process or procedure to explain what does exist that does not require immense periods of time. That is why we keep asking you to provide the model, method, mechanism, process or procedure to explain how it could be done in only 6000 years.

But you have never presented the model, mechanism, method, process or procedure that allows your magic flood to separate all modern life forms and segregate them into the uppermost strata which washed away into the ocean or rubble piles where they all rotted away?

Again faith, you need to provide a model, method, mechanism, process or procedure to explain what does exist that does not require immense periods of time.We are waiting on you.

How did the flood only sort grass pollens into certain epoch layers and not into others?

Let's test that statement as well and see if it could be true or just another of Faith's misrepresentations.Faith, does the Vishnu Schist exist and is there evidence of the Super Group on top of it?Does the Navajo Sandstone exist and is it on a layer higher than the Vishnu Schist and the Super Group?Is the portion of the Super Group that remains more than two miles thick?If those things actually exist will they not represent a period of time at least long enough to create the basic material then transport the material to where it is found?Since only a portion of the Super Group remains can we not say that it represents at least the period of time needed to create over two miles of rock and also the time needed to erode over two miles of material?Are those not descriptions of time periods?How is it a silly idea?

There actually are characteristics science has that is totally missing from creationism; two major ones are honesty and doubt.Science always questions whether or not it is correct and accepts that it can be in error, changing when that happens to reflect new knowledge and discoveries.That is the strength of science any why it will always be more accurate and useful than belief.When the subject is if one of the Biblical floods ever happened or if the earth is only 6000 years old, science began by belief, believing those were true. However ever bit of evidence, every discovery, every branch of science, every new technology for the last quarter of a millennium has reenforced and confirmed that neither of the Biblical floods ever happened and that the earth is at least 4.5 billion years old.Young Earth and the Biblical Floods are DeadOnArrival and simply beliefs to be pitied.

The Siberian Traps cover an area about the size of Western Europe; over seven hundred thousand square miles and were the product of a whole series of events as opposed to a single eruption.The basic format is of flood basalt layers of lava flows interspersed with pyroclastic ash as well as tuff.Different layers have different chemical composition and show a pattern of sudden explosive volcanic events followed by lava flows. Since they are found as layers we can establish relative ages, lava from younger events being above lava from earlier events.Thickness varies but even today some remaining parts are well over two miles thick.An important consideration is that we know that lava flow fronts do not move quickly and that people can usually out walk lava advance so from that we can get some idea of how long it took for just the parts remaining to have been deposited. In addition since there is evidence of many, many overlaying layers showing separate flows we can safely assume similar speeds for each subsequent event.The fastest lava flow front speed recorded was only six miles an hour so a human might need to jog to stay ahead of that.There is additional evidence that shows there were at least two separate stages of volcanic activity, again, each consisting of multiple flow events.It has been suggested that it might be useful to compare cooling times to something like Hoover Damn but I'm not at all sure that would tell us anything. The Siberian Traps are not a single monolithic object and did not have cooling pipes with cold water running through them but we can look at modern lava flow fronts to get some ideas. Lava can form a thin skin, sometimes thick enough to support a human's weight fairly quickly; perhaps in as little time as a half hour; but that skin in turn insulates the interior so that it can take weeks or months for the flow itself to cool once the event stops.Lava can flow very rapidly through established lava pipes (maybe 40-60 MPH) but that is only in established old fields and does not expand the field.Cooling time then is related to how fast the flow front advances and until the final extent of the individual flow is reached means little. That seems to point to flow rate being the determining time factor and once active flow stops the whole layer should cool in a fairly short period measured in months.But again, the above holds true for each layer of lava, each event, each flow.

The time estimate for the Siberian Trap creation is on the order of a million years and about 250 million years ago.And of course those time estimates are based on real evidence not just some book written by the ignorant.But first you might want to learn how to read. No where did I even intimate that anything happened over a period of months except a final cooling phase; just the opposite, I pointed out that cooling time is not even significant. Rather the issue is how long would it take a lava flow to cover an area the size of Western Europe when expanding at a rate of 3-5 mph? Then how long to repeat that same process not just once but thousands of times?Now you might choose to deny the evidence of dating but that only says that you want to reamin ignorant, which is fine.Reality and Truth have shown that Young Earth or either of the Biblical Floods are simply DeadOnArrival, nonsense, false, absurd, ridiculous, worthy only of a chuckle.

Not to mention the rapid magnetic reversals that must have happened every 25 years or so. Since there are over 184 full magnetic reversals found in the Atlantic sea floor alone then if the spreading happened in just 4500 years certainly someone might have noticed that all the compasses stopped working about 25 times in the 600+ years that it has been used in Western European seafaring.Edited by jar, : fix sub-title

You introduced the utterly absurd idea that the Atlantic Ocean might have opened in just 4500 years. How can pointing out how utterly stupid that idea really is ever be out of line?

But Faith, again you are simply misrepresenting what has been posted as well as reality.Of course folk here can think hypothetically; the only difference is that they also think critically. They can consider your idea and take the next step, the step you always seem to leave out and ask, "If that were true what MUST we see?"In your idea that the Atlantic Ocean opened over the last 4500 years we would have to see the magnetic poles reverse at least 184 times. Now granted for much of that time people were only using magnets as divination devices but for at least 600+ years they were using them for navigation and so should have noticed that every 25 years or so every compass swapped polarity.Then again, if what you claimed was true we would need to find some evidence to explain starting the motion and also slowing down that motion. Events leave evidence. Change must leave evidence. You need to produce both the evidence as well as the model, method, mechanism, process or procedure that would explain continents moving speeding up and then slowing down.It's not just thinking hypothetically but rather then being able to criticize your own idea and develop sufficient evidence to convince those who think you are wrong.Edited by jar, : appalin spallin you--->your

Except you made absolutely no calculations about how much energy would be needed, the source of such energy or how much of that energy would get transferred to the water. You also made lots of obviously false assertions like assuming there would be lots of water to heat. If as you claim the continent split happened in only 4500 years then there would have been no Atlantic Ocean at the beginning and so almost no water at the initial rift.Go back and critique your "hypothetical" and actually do a few real calculations, like how much energy is needed to accelerate a mass equal to a continent to the speed of ten feet a day.Before you can say anything about boiling the Atlantic you need that figure.Edited by jar, : changed miles per hour to feet per day to actually reflect what Faith claimed.

And thinking critically requires you take the next step and ask "If this were true what must I see?"That is the difference between science and preaching.