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edge
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Message 295 of 1053 (751920)
03-06-2015 8:57 PM
Reply to: Message 282 by Faith
03-06-2015 7:25 PM


Re: Iridium boundary layer
So the layer of iridium was deposited during the receding of the water.
Not sure what leads you to this position. Please explain.
Nobody claims the Flood has been adequately understood, we're just trying to put together the possibilities.
Why is such a flood possible? What is your evidence?
Nothing is hard and fast, we're working on it.
I seriously doubt that. Please support this statement. Who is working on this and what are they doing?
What are you so angry about? The science that is used to debunk the Flood is all speculation too, because it has to be because it's about the past which can't be replicated.
It is about processes that happened and produced effects in the past.

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edge
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Message 296 of 1053 (751921)
03-06-2015 9:01 PM
Reply to: Message 285 by Faith
03-06-2015 7:48 PM


Re: Iridium boundary layer
As for participating on this thread, I'm not interested in participating on this thread, I'd like to get off it. My interest is wholly limited to the remark I made that the iridium layer can be explained in relation to the Flood.
But it isn't explained by the flood is it?
All you are really saying is that it, 'could'a happened at the same time'.
A completely meaningless statement.

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edge
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Message 297 of 1053 (751922)
03-06-2015 9:04 PM
Reply to: Message 288 by Faith
03-06-2015 8:19 PM


Re: Iridium boundary layer
I've discussed all this stuff elsewhere. This is tiresome and your attitude is offensive.
Actually, no, you have not 'discussed' anything. You have preached and made a bunch of unsupported, wishful assertions.
And speaking of offensive...

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edge
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Message 302 of 1053 (751927)
03-06-2015 9:10 PM
Reply to: Message 298 by Faith
03-06-2015 9:05 PM


Re: Iridium boundary layer
Point was it can't be used as evidence against the Flood.
And no one was doing so.

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edge
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Message 305 of 1053 (751930)
03-06-2015 9:12 PM
Reply to: Message 300 by Faith
03-06-2015 9:08 PM


Re: Iridium boundary layer
Don't know anything about Price. The information Clark produced about the great extent of the rock sheets is consistent with the idea of the Flood.
You keep saying things like this, but you never say why it is so.

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edge
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Message 306 of 1053 (751932)
03-06-2015 9:15 PM
Reply to: Message 301 by Faith
03-06-2015 9:09 PM


Re: Iridium boundary layer
[qs]A HUGE amount of the observed facts fit the Flood explanation. The strata and the fossils both fit it./qs
Then you science is lame.
Facts to not fit a theory. A theory fits the facts.
But again, I would like an explanation of your explanation. Just saying that 'da fludde explains (everything)' is disingenuous and naive.

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edge
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Message 308 of 1053 (751934)
03-06-2015 9:16 PM
Reply to: Message 304 by Faith
03-06-2015 9:11 PM


Re: Iridium boundary layer
Great. I'm sure ThinAir was working up to it though.
I'm sure you would know ... that miraculous mind-reading power of YECs is well-documented.

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edge
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Message 310 of 1053 (751936)
03-06-2015 9:19 PM
Reply to: Message 307 by Faith
03-06-2015 9:16 PM


Re: Iridium boundary layer
Sure isn't consistent with the idea of deposition over millions of years.
Why not?
Because you say so?
Sheesh, is THAT idea nuts. Huge areas of flat horizontal rocks of one sediment?
Again, why not? And what area are you talking about. Please stop generalizing and give us facts.
But it IS consistent with the idea of deposition by huge waves covering the land as the Flood receded.
How is that? Give us a model, some kind of example or documentation. Or you could just say it's was pink unicorns.

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edge
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Message 313 of 1053 (751939)
03-06-2015 9:22 PM
Reply to: Message 309 by RAZD
03-06-2015 9:18 PM


Re: green river varves
Faith is adamant that her interpretation of the bible is absolutely true, and I'm sure you are familiar with this type of arguments.
Quite the point. These are often Faith's arguments and no one else's. They are self-generated fantasies without support, just wishful assertions.

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edge
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Message 316 of 1053 (751942)
03-06-2015 9:25 PM
Reply to: Message 311 by Faith
03-06-2015 9:20 PM


Re: Iridium boundary layer
Facts fit theory, theory fits facts. Flood and strata and fossils are a match however you say it.
Why not?
Once again, you make an assertion without any explanation.
Layered discrete sediments certainly do NOT fit the millions of years scenario except by the most ridiculously ad hoc attempts at scenario-creation.
You just said that. Repeating it does not validate the idea.
Walther's Law very likely explanation of strata as laid down in rising and falling sea level. Bazillions of dead things exactly what the Flood did.
Don't hide behind Walther's Law. Why do all of the 'dead things' support a global fludde?
Edited by edge, : No reason given.

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edge
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Message 319 of 1053 (751945)
03-06-2015 9:28 PM
Reply to: Message 317 by Faith
03-06-2015 9:25 PM


Re: green river varves
They are logical conclusions from accurate observations, ...
Why so? If they are so logical, what is the reasoning?
... to anyone who knows how to think.
Then it appears that no one here knows how to think. Do you think that just declaring everyone else unable to think validates your position?
Edited by edge, : No reason given.

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edge
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Message 320 of 1053 (751946)
03-06-2015 9:29 PM
Reply to: Message 318 by Faith
03-06-2015 9:26 PM


Re: Iridium boundary layer
Gosh, and you're logically challenged too.
Is that your supporting argument?

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edge
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Message 322 of 1053 (751948)
03-06-2015 9:53 PM
Reply to: Message 321 by Faith
03-06-2015 9:33 PM


Re: Iridium boundary layer
If you had an ounce of scientific imagination you wouldn't have to ask such nonsensical questions.
So, you want us to believe something just because you say so? Because you say it's logical?

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edge
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Posts: 4696
From: Colorado, USA
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Message 324 of 1053 (751950)
03-06-2015 9:56 PM
Reply to: Message 323 by Faith
03-06-2015 9:54 PM


Re: Iridium boundary layer
No, I wish you had the basic scientific imagination, or basic intelligence, and the honesty, to grasp my simple objective point.
So, all of the people here who disagree with you have no imagination, basic intelligence or honesty?
Do you consider yourself to be judgemental?

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edge
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From: Colorado, USA
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Message 326 of 1053 (751952)
03-06-2015 10:06 PM
Reply to: Message 325 by Faith
03-06-2015 10:01 PM


Re: Iridium boundary layer
I'm making such a simple obvious point that to deny it and evade it as you do shows either inferior intelligence or stubborn animosity or both. And your silly accusatory generalizations in trying to deal with what I'm saying just compound the problem.
If it is so simple and obvious, it should be an easy task for you to explain.

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