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Author Topic:   What to say if you met God/god/Gods/gods
Tangle
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Message 1 of 116 (749620)
02-06-2015 9:24 AM


I don't know whether Stephen Fry is known to Americans but he's become a bit of a national treasure in the UK. He's a very smart guy, a comedian, writer, technophile, homosexual and atheist.
He was recently interviewed on Irish TV, asked what he's say to god if/when he met him and consequently caused quite a storm. The interviewer was obviously pretty shocked.
No YouTube URL Providedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1422579428&feature=...
Someone - I thought it was Russell but my 5 minute Google didn't reveal anything - said some like
"You should have given me more evidence."
Which is also pretty cool.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif.
Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Tangle
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Message 5 of 116 (749664)
02-07-2015 3:08 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by Phat
02-06-2015 8:39 PM


Re: Questions For Hizzoner
Phat writes:
Would you say something similar to how Stephen Fry responded?
Most of what Stephen said has been said by others - the worm in the child's eye is David Attenburgh for example - but not all at once and not as cleverly or as powerully - I couldn't hope to match that.
Of course the problem with this little conceit is that if god does exist he's obviously a total shit and he's not going to offer the opportunity of a pleasant little chat.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif.
Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Message 9 of 116 (749681)
02-07-2015 12:05 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Faith
02-07-2015 3:44 AM


Re: Questions For Hizzoner
Faith writes:
We all inherit sin through our ancestors and bring more suffering on ourselves through our own sins. Babies simply inherit it
It's exactly this kind of evil, insane and just plain laughable idea that proves that if there is a god, he's sure as hell (sic) got nothing to do with Christianity.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif.
Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Tangle
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Message 18 of 116 (749800)
02-08-2015 4:17 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Dr Adequate
02-08-2015 3:35 PM


Dr A writes:
Assuming I recognized him, I guess I'd open with "hello, God".
What, not "Yo bro, how's it danglin'?

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif.
Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Tangle
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Message 28 of 116 (750012)
02-11-2015 10:21 AM


I think my question will be
'Why did you make life on earth competitive?'

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif.
Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Message 65 of 116 (763385)
07-24-2015 8:26 AM
Reply to: Message 64 by foreveryoung
07-24-2015 5:46 AM


foreveryoung writes:
The world was a much more superstitious place back then
Which is exactly how and why the myths started and proliferated. Funy how when we know more about how the world works, He disappears from view.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif.
Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Message 71 of 116 (763396)
07-24-2015 11:14 AM
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07-24-2015 11:03 AM


foreveryoung writes:
I know how the world works scientifically, his existence to me only becomes more real with each piece of knowledge I gain.
It seems that the less superstitious we become, the fewer ghosts there are.
Coincidence?

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif.
Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Tangle
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Message 76 of 116 (766421)
08-18-2015 3:44 AM
Reply to: Message 74 by Phat
08-18-2015 1:58 AM


Re: Competition
Phat writes:
It seems to me that humans are solely responsible for this nature.
Oh Phat. Humans are late comers, we've only been around for about 200,000 years. Life on earth has been competitive since it began. Big things eat smaller things to survive. Billions of years of evolution have made life competitive - if 'God did it', he made carnivores which can only survive by killing other animals. Many species co-operate to kill, including Homo.
Life is designed to be competitive, it didn't need to be that way. Your God could have done it differently, why did he choose not to?

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif.
Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Tangle
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Message 79 of 116 (766462)
08-18-2015 1:41 PM
Reply to: Message 78 by ICANT
08-18-2015 11:19 AM


Re: Competition
ICANT writes:
All animals and mankind was originally vegetarians.
Evidence please.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif.
Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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