Network Problems

Perhaps it has to do with being on a public computer...I recall that you favored the public library to grace us with your presence....

I was on a library computer at the time but I also had several other websites open at the same time and had no problem with any of them, so I don't think it was a local network problem. Also, the wifi at Staples sometimes cuts out intermittently but it never logs me out.

I get logged out a lot and it's always when my name is in the Online Now list but the top line says "login" rather than "logout" though apparently I don't have the right explanation for it. But deleting cookies never made a difference. only logging in and out until something resets.

This shouldn't be possible. Whether you're logged in or not is controlled by cookies, which the software controls, but which can also be cleared on your Profile page (the link is at the bottom) or through your browser settings page or changed/deleted by malicious software. The Online Now list is maintained in the database. If you're name is on the Online Now list but you're not logged in then your cookies are not being cleared by the board software.On the login page there's a checkbox called "Remember my login for future visits". If you check this box then your login will be remembered for a year, and each time you access any page that year is renewed. In other words, if you use EvC Forum at least once a year, you'll never have to log in again (for that browser on that machine).But if you don't check this box then your login only survives for as long as you have at least one open EvC page. Once you close that last EvC page then the browser deletes all the cookies.--Percy

OK, I logged in again, checked the Remember box, then went to my profile and deleted cookies, then logged in again. I'll not restrict opening many pages, and we'll just see what happens.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

If you checked the Remember box the 2nd time you logged in then that's a good starting point. If not then log out and log in again, this time checking the Remember box.--Percy

Actually I did, I always do, but I just did it again so now we'll see.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

OK, nothing has changed since I reset everything and I just now lost a message when I tried to post it, got sent to the Login page. Sure enough, the top line said I was not logged in although my name was listed as "online now." I took a screen shot for evidence (I think) but I don't know how to post it.This one should post because I've logged in and out a few times.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Looking at the code, cookies are not erased unless you specifically request it through your profile page. It doesn't remove you from the Online Now list since the assumption is that if you're clicking on the "Delete All Cookies" link that you didn't do that as a way of logging out but are working through some problem and will log in again.You can get logged out if an irregularity is detected in your cookies, such as your password cookie not matching your password in the database (passwords are encrypted, of course). This could happen if, for example, you're accessing EvC through Internet Explorer in one window, then go to Chrome in another window and change your EvC password, then go back to Internet Explorer and try to access an EvC page and it will log you out and take you to the login page, printing a message in red near the top that your password has changed and to log in again.But irregularities shouldn't happen in your cookies with just normal use. Plus when you get logged out it removes you from the Online Now list. And if you get logged out while trying to perform an action and are taken to the login page, such as when trying to post a message, then once you log in again it will automatically perform that action. If that message didn't get posted when you logged in again then something is, uh, weird.So we'll have to look for the cause. Let's start by examining your cookies. Are you using Internet Explorer or Microsoft Edge?--Percy

Microsoft EdgeI'd get logged out and sent to the Login page but my name would still be in the Online Now list. And logging in again does not automatically post the message, it's just lost. Yes it's weird.ABE: Of course I couldn't even have access to a message box if I weren't logged in, right? Which is why it is such a shock to be sent to the Login page when I try to post the message. And that is when I can see that it says both that I'm online and that I'm logged out. Yes, very weird indeed.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Here's how you find out your cookies on Microsoft Edge:

• Click on the horizontal three dots near the top right hand side of the Microsoft Edge Window. This will display a menu of selections.
• Click on Developer Tools
• The Developer Tools window will open. There is black line of menu items at the top. Click on Debugger.
• In the left hand navigation bar will be a list of items. Click on Cookies.
• Beneath Cookies will be the name of the EvC code module you're currently running. It could be Threads.php or Forums.php or dm.php or any other code module, it doesn't matter. Click on it.
• A list of cookies will appear in the center column. Please send me the following information for each cookie:
  • Name
  • Value
  • Domain (should be " EvC Forum: Home Page " for all of them)
  • Path (should be "/" for all of them)
  • Expires date

--Percy

I usually compile my posts(messages) on WordPad first before copy/pasting them over here. That way if they ever get scrambled or lost, I still have them on the open WordPad document.

Beneath Cookies there is no code like what you list, justService Workers
Cache
EvC Forum: Home Page If I click on the evc forum link nothing happensIf I click on Network, next to Debugger then I get a list of codes like the ones you list.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

The "Back" button works fine, too. For even greater assurance you won't lose anything, hit CTRL-A CTRL-C just before you click "Submit Reply" - if something should go haywire then just get back into the reply box and hit CTRL-V.--Percy

Were you displaying a page from EvC when you clicked on Developer Tools? If not then first open a page at EvC.The "Cookies" item should have a right arrow to its left. If you click on "Cookies" the right arrow should turn into a down/right arrow and you should see the name of the code module at EvC that you're displaying. Click on the code module name.--Percy