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Author Topic:   So I Wrote A Book On The Scientific Method
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Message 17 of 168 (730203)
06-25-2014 11:22 AM
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06-25-2014 1:14 AM


Glad to offer opinions
Since I am full of ... them. I'd enjoy trying to do a critical read.

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Message 36 of 168 (730380)
06-27-2014 5:12 PM


20 % In
I haven't yet been reading to suggest changes but I'm about 20 % through and at this point I would buy this book if it was in a book store. Everyone here could learn something from this however aware they think they are.

  
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Message 132 of 168 (735642)
08-20-2014 8:00 AM
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08-20-2014 1:16 AM


Nuts
I was away and forgot about it. I'll get back to it this week.
Sorry

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Message 154 of 168 (735830)
08-26-2014 8:37 AM


About 60 % Done
I am not sure I am reading it like an editor would at all. I am not finding anything I would change.
I like the flow and the examples very much. So far, so great.
May I 'lend' a copy to a friend of mine?

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Message 157 of 168 (735835)
08-26-2014 11:25 AM
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08-26-2014 10:15 AM


Wiil buy by the way
Just a note to say I will buy this when it is published. Well, unless the per page price is toooo much.
In fact, if you are forced to self publish as an e-book. Make sure I know how to buy that.

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Message 158 of 168 (735840)
08-26-2014 12:17 PM


If I was a reviewer...
I would warn the reader that, after supplying such an interesting insight as "The opposite of trying to prove a theory true is not trying to prove it false: the opposite of both these things if indifference, apathy, and complacence.", our writer then slides this in when we are lulled into trusting him: "Seismologists (for example) might be influenced by their preferred hypotheses into over- or underestimating the strength of a given earthquake; a seismometer, on the other hand, would be swayed only by the earthquake and not by prejudice."
Delivered subtly belying it's outrageousness.

  
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Message 159 of 168 (735967)
08-28-2014 5:41 PM


Cartoons
I think it would be helped (but maybe too difficult or expensive) if you could have a scattering of illustrative and/or funny cartoons.

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Message 160 of 168 (735968)
08-28-2014 11:42 PM


Another opinion
This is what the friend I lent the book to had so say. Certainly more useful input than I can come up with.
"Just a few observations that the author may or may not care about.
Per the Flamingos smile Darwin believed in the old way of looking at categorization (per Victorian mores) until months after return from his trip.
Showing that he changed his mind upon 1) evidence and experience and 2) input from other experts in biology that showed him that the finches were NOT separate birds species but adaptations, supports many of the authors points that he is trying to make.
Another observation is re the actual whether pigs have wings part of the book. Further to mass observation that proves the rule (at least 99.9 percent of the time) I think there is another salient message to be made here about science and the scientific method.
That would be that with further; more detailed analysis and thought on this; you can usually (often?) in science come up with some very good reasons (from your observational hypothesis that pigs do NOT have wings (or fly or ever did fly)) as to why this is. The last time that anything that was non birdlike (ie hollow bones, feathers, etc) the size of a pig actually flew was the Pterodactyls and Pteranodons of the dinosaur eras. Recent discoveries point to two reasons why everything was so big then, 1) much more oxygen in the air so that less fuel could support bigger sizes 2) many/most/all dinosaurs were hybrids of cold/warm blooded animals (as the tails of sharks are today) and had the benefits of both types of systems.
The pig does not have the bone structure to fly and it is too big to fly given the lower oxygen content of our atmosphere and it’s purely warm blooded nature which requires too much fuel to fly something that big with non hollow bones and no feathers (the Fruit bat seems to be about the biggest thing that can fly with membranes these days). So physics, biology and chemistry also point to it being unlikely to find any flying pigs (and the fossil record doesn’t show any flying pigs so no vestigial wings either).
Another small bit of input might be around the section where the author talks about observing the orange colour and stripes and concluding it is a tiger. The focus here seemed to be again that mass observation led us to use these two things as key signposts (that could keep you alive) that IT IS A TIGER! I think that a further point about the scientific approach could be made here. That is that if we are still not absolutely sure it is not just a large striped tabby cat; science allows us to peer closer at the animal (hopefully dead or unconscious) and do detailed analysis of it’s structure down to the DNA level to compare it with known tigers. So we have ways to be mightily sure (just not in time to save us maybe).
It is interesting that none of the above approaches help us explain away unicorns. There are no physics, chemistry or biological constraints to limit the existance of such an animal (look at the narwhal). Only massive amounts of observation all over the world.
Anyway that’s it. Otherwise a very well written explanation of this topic. I enjoyed the way the book built upon the various parts of the scientific method, addressing each in turn and how
they build to something that we can trust (to a reasonable extent). The parts I liked the best was where the author confronted the various ways that pseudo science and believers’'(and philosophers) have tried to attack or even highjack for themselves some of the various premises of the scientific method. The use of examples and thought experiments throughout was excellent. I particularly enjoyed the
undoing of the ICR and it’s approach as I am dismayed as to how many times these creationists and their ilk keep reappearing throughout the world (and particularly in the US southern states )."

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Message 164 of 168 (736013)
08-29-2014 7:45 PM
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08-29-2014 1:19 PM


Re: Cartoons
Don't worry about it. I meant cartoons not in the sense of funny but as sort of as illustrative:
e.g., a winged pig, planets in orbit etc.
The book is not, to me, tough or difficult. I find it crisp, clear, full of thought (in fact, dense with insight). Enjoyable to read and a good reference to just hand to someone in an argument, tell them to read it, and get back.
I might not be the core of your audience though. I am discerning, intelligent and knowledgeable beyond the average. (no )

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