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Taq Member Posts: 9973 Joined: Member Rating: 5.7 |
As I already said, the signatures were validated by the City Secretary, then illegally and fraudulently disqualified by the City Attorney. What was illegal or fraudelent about the disqualifications?
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Taq Member Posts: 9973 Joined: Member Rating: 5.7 |
Looks to me like they are targeted in such a way as to be caught off guard because the whole point is to take legal action against them. The anti-gay group is the one who filed the lawsuit in the Houston case. They are the ones who took legal action. Edited by Taq, : No reason given.
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Taq Member Posts: 9973 Joined: Member Rating: 5.7 |
Well, there you have it, the perfect reversal of good for evil and evil for good that is THE sign of the last days. Like we haven't heard that for the last 2,000 years. How many times have people proclaimed that we are in the end days?
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Taq Member Posts: 9973 Joined: Member Rating: 5.7 |
No. If crime is punished by a society it isn't going to pull down God's wrath because the society is doing the right thing. It's when society does the wrong thing that it is punished. Let's see . . . humans are living longer and healthier lives than they ever have before. Rates of childhood mortality have plummeted. We have never been under less threat from infectious diseases than now. If this is punishment, I say we do even more wrong things.
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Taq Member Posts: 9973 Joined: Member Rating: 5.7 |
Where did I say anything to imply that you should expect to be punished? I'm talking about society as a whole coming increasingly under God's judgment for an accumulation of sins BY society over a long period of time. And yet society keeps getting better. We are curing more diseases, living longer, living better . . . if that is increasing judgment, keep it coming. Edited by Taq, : No reason given.
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Taq Member Posts: 9973 Joined: Member Rating: 5.7 |
Most black people know better, they know there is no legitimate comparison between the black Civil Rights movement and this attempt to legitimize a nonracial nonethnic group Baloney. It is discrimination based on sex, period. You are saying that you can marry a woman, as long as you aren't a woman. That is sex discrimination, and last I checked you have no say as to what sex you are born as. Discrimination based on race and sex are directly comparable.
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Taq Member Posts: 9973 Joined: Member Rating: 5.7 |
Well, that's a clever way to twist it. Full of logical holes but probably politically correct enough to pass muster What logical holes? You are claiming that who you can marry should be based on sex. That is sexual discrimination, straight away.
But again, most blacks would not agree with it. Who cares if they agree or disagree. What matters is the truth, or at least it matters to some of us . . . perhaps not to you.
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Taq Member Posts: 9973 Joined: Member Rating: 5.7 |
Once again, here is the decision reached back in May dealing with gay marriage in my home state:
quote: Again, it is about discrimination against same SEX marraiges. It is about discriminating against couples because of their sex. On top of that, they can demonstrate harm while no one who opposes gay marriage can present any real harm that will come to them because two women can get married. Even federal judges are comparing the ban on gay marriages to the ban on mixed race marriages. Edited by Taq, : No reason given.
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Taq Member Posts: 9973 Joined: Member Rating: 5.7 |
I'm discriminating against Women because some women, a very tiny minority of women, want to marry other women? Yep.
I guess I just don't have the ability to put my head into the logical pretzel that makes such thinking seem to make sense. What part of same SEX marriage is so hard for you to figure out?
But I guess I'm not discriminating against Women if I ignore the votes of a huge number of women against gay marriage? Just like you are not discriminating against mixed race marriages if a majority of whites vote against it? Edited by Taq, : No reason given.
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Taq Member Posts: 9973 Joined: Member Rating: 5.7
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It's a phony misuse of the word. No, it isn't. You want to restrict marriage based on sex.
The fact that there are in nature two quite distinct sexes rather determines the right combination of them. No, it doesn't. Ever heard of this thing called "freedom"? What about letting people decide for themselves what the right combination is?
But emotion is everything these days, we make laws based on feelings rather than objective realities or even the near-universal practices of millennia. If the feeling contradicts the objective physical reality, we just go with the feeling. This is considered "progress." Emotion is all you have. Your emotion is that same sex marriages are icky, so no one should be allowed to do it.
Marriage has to do with the objective physical fit of male and female. Nope, that's what reproduction is. That is not marriage.
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Taq Member Posts: 9973 Joined: Member Rating: 5.7
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Since one of the two is the natural parent in these cases, or the legally adoptive parent, that is also naturally covered by the laws you mention cover aunts and uncles etc;. Why are you -- or they -- making this sound like such a big problem, I really don't see it at all. Seems to me they could live as a couple, and make use of the legal benefits automatically conferred on the natural parent, etc. How naive of you. If that natural parent dies, the family of the natural parent can bar that person's life partner from ever seeing that child again. If the couple breaks up, one of the partners has no recourse for visitation.
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Taq Member Posts: 9973 Joined: Member Rating: 5.7
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I used the bolt lock example just as a way of emphasizing that it's about uniting the two distinctly different sexes, for which a physical analogy is simply the most accessible, and it's being about two different sexes means it has no relevance whatever to two of the same sex because it's about bringing together the DIFFERENT sexes. The despicable thing is that you deny that same sex couples can love each other as deeply as a heterosexual couple.
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So? What I said was true, the courts have overruled the vote of the people in state after state. Just like segregation and anti-miscegenation laws. When will it finally get through your psychological barriers that you can not vote to take away a person's constitutional rights?
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Taq Member Posts: 9973 Joined: Member Rating: 5.7 |
Have said no such thing, have said absolutely nothing about love, keep saying that I'm not talking about feelings or personal experience at all, but defining marriage as an objective social institution that people have to be qualified for. Period. That's not how marriage is defined. We don't define marriage as a partnership for procreation. We don't force heterosexual couples to prove their fecundity before their nuptuals. It isn't about reproduction. Obviously, people reproduce just fine outside of marriages.
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Taq Member Posts: 9973 Joined: Member Rating: 5.7 |
Homosexuality is not a legitimate minority. We do not grant special rights to aberrant groups. Getting married is not a special right. It's not as if homosexuals are asking that only they should be able to marry. They are asking for the SAME rights as heterosexual couples. If you are saying that only heterosexual couples should have the right to marry, then you are the one asking for special rights. Edited by Taq, : No reason given.
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