Homosexuality and Evo, Creo, and ID

What gays want is to persecute Christians for opposing gay marriage and calling homosexuality a sin.

Marriage is for heterosexuals.

Like I said, Christians object to gay marriage.

Christians object to gay marriage and are not allowed to.

Christians are being set up so that if we object to gay marriage we can be punished by the state.

This is no persecution complex.

Just reading this thread is a clue to the popularity of a punishing attitude toward Christians.

Being forced to close their shop even if they continued at home is a pretty big price to pay I'd say.

I really don't see why it should be so hard to tell the difference between religious freedom and discrimination on the basis of race etc. Discriminating against persons is rightly disallowed by law, but that is not what is going on in the case of businesses being asked to support an IDEA such as gay marriage or Catholicism as the Whore of Babylon.

In at least one case I'm aware of the cake was ordered before the owner was told it was for a gay wedding. Too late to say there were scheduling problems.

Well, I'm sure they would be more careful now and ask the names of the bride and groom before taking the order, but the mother and daughter who came in to make the order sued them, they were harassed by people shouting obscenities into their shop and finally closed the shop, now the husband has a job driving a truck and the wife still does birthday cakes but no longer does wedding cakes.

The irregularities were trumped up by Feldman, the City something or other, AttorneyI think but the woman responsible for counting signatures stopped counting after nineteen thousand because she'd validated the necessary percentage if those to inow that the fifty five thousand submitted would contain the same percentage of validated signatures. Only seventeen thousand were needed, they got fifty five thousand. Feldman just invented an excuse to disqualify them out of thin air. To disqualify that many show fraud. The excuse that the language was too broad is ridiculous. They took out the word "sermon" as if that would make a difference. But just a few days before that the mayor had tweeted that sermons are fair game if there is anything political in them, so we know the word "sermon" was not the issue. But there is no excuse at all to subpoena the opinions of a pastor for objecting to her insane ordinance. This is sheer political harassment. Reminds lots of us of how Nazi Germany operated against its political enemies. This is no longer America if a mayor does such things.

The lawsuit was about the fraud of disqualifying the signatures.

That has nothing to do with opinions about the ordinance.

Clearly the mayor's office is guilty of political harassment.

It has to start somewhere, and government control of the churches and other inconvenient groups started with similar actions in Nazi Germany.

Keep in mind that this action by the Houston mayor against pastors is absolutely unprecedented in America.

Freedom of speech in America SPECIFICALLY covered political speech, the right to criticize those in power.