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Author Topic:   Ancient Biblical ritual saves MILLIONS of lives
New Cat's Eye
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Message 26 of 98 (720637)
02-25-2014 5:01 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by Eliyahu
02-25-2014 4:55 PM


Fact of the matter is, it HAS a medical meaning.
You haven't ruled out coincidence, so no, its not a fact of the matter.

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Message 47 of 98 (720678)
02-26-2014 9:59 AM
Reply to: Message 30 by Eliyahu
02-25-2014 11:38 PM


Coincedence or not, it is a fact that that Biblical ritual saves millions of lives and prevents untold human suffering.
But you could just as accurately say that a ritual that has come to save millions of lives had become a Biblical ritual.
People were doing circumcisions before the Bible was written. It wasn't invented by the Bible.
And that is not the only Biblical law that turns out to be very benificial.
Sure, because things that were beneficial became Biblical law.
If you keep on stacking "coincidence" on "coincicence", then it becomes very silly to keep on believing in coincidence.
You're the pot calling the kettle black.

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Message 67 of 98 (720898)
02-28-2014 9:53 AM
Reply to: Message 54 by Eliyahu
02-28-2014 12:49 AM


But you could just as accurately say that a ritual that has come to save millions of lives had become a Biblical ritual.
The only problem is that all evidence for that assumption is lacking.
No it isn't. The Egyptians were doing circumcisions before the Jews were. They've found wall carvings showing it and they've found mummies that were circumcised.
Another problem is that the Biblical laws are unique for the Bible. If you compare the Biblical laws with the contemporary pagan laws, then you see a tremendous difference.
I'm not talking about the contemporaries. I'm talking about the predecessors.
The Biblical laws are enormous life savers. The pagan medical remedies would help you sooner into you grave.
There are Biblical laws that would help you sooner into the grave, too. They've been pointed out to you in this thread.
No other holy book or even medical book prescribes circumcision.
Only Egypt had it for a while, because the Israelites lived for centuries in Egypt, and forced circumcision upon the Egyptians.
No, the Jews learned circumcision from the Egyptians. You just want to make your religion out to be better than it is.
At least we agree on the fact that the Biblical laws are very beneficial .
Not all of them. Some of them, sure. But that's because if you know something is beneficial, then you might as well write it down.
And why did the Jews figure out what was very beneficial, like circumcision on the eight day, and could no other culture figure out what was so beneficial?
The Egyptians figured it out before the Jews did.
Divine intervention.
That's just your wishful thinking. And the evidence shows that if it was divine intervention, then it was for the Egyptians rather than the Jews.

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Message 72 of 98 (721168)
03-04-2014 12:18 PM
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03-04-2014 12:14 AM


Re: ``
The Israelites lived for centuries among the Egyptians, and they forced circumcision on the Egyptians. So the Egyptians got it from the Jews, not the other way around.
No, the Egyptians were already performing circumcisions before the Jews even got there.

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Message 75 of 98 (721186)
03-04-2014 5:04 PM
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03-04-2014 2:35 PM


Re: History of Circumcision
Yup, I read that page before I told that lying Jew what's up. It says that they even found a circumcised mummy. He's just trying to prop up his faith by dishonestly making it out to be more than it is.

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Message 78 of 98 (721262)
03-05-2014 5:22 PM
Reply to: Message 76 by Diomedes
03-05-2014 1:54 PM


Re: History of Circumcision
Is this guy just a troll?
I don't think he is intentionally trying to get a rise out of us, I think he is just a dishonest fool.

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Message 85 of 98 (721690)
03-11-2014 11:39 AM
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03-11-2014 12:35 AM


Re: ``
you writes:
you writes:
me writes:
The Egyptians were doing circumcisions before the Jews were. They've found wall carvings showing it and they've found mummies that were circumcised.
The Israelites lived for centuries among the Egyptians, and they forced circumcision on the Egyptians. So the Egyptians got it from the Jews, not the other way around.
Source of this statement, please?
By that I mean a source beyond, "I said so."
Jewish tradition.
You're so stupid I cannot contain myself.

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Message 87 of 98 (721714)
03-11-2014 2:08 PM
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03-11-2014 12:40 PM


Re: ``
Maybe you can use the Harry Potter series to demonstrate that witches and wizards walk among us.
Well, it is the latest publication on the subject. And it hasn't been refuted. So according to scientific rules, for all intents and purposes it has been scientifically proven and the debate is over.
Edited by Catholic Scientist, : I accidentally a word.

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Message 89 of 98 (721727)
03-11-2014 3:59 PM
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03-11-2014 3:45 PM


Re: ``
so maybe I should swing by the Harry Potter exhibit and buy myself a wand.
*sigh* You stupid Muggles don't know anything.
Edited by Catholic Scientist, : added smiley

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