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dadman
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Message 46 of 82 (720194)
02-20-2014 7:00 PM
Reply to: Message 44 by Theodoric
02-20-2014 5:41 PM


The Manifesto
anyhow .. http://www.vatican.va/...p_20131124_evangelii-gaudium_en.pdf .. the document you desire
for more on this issue see: signature / P / Pope Francis
There will be in the tribulation period a great apostate ecclesiastical system headed up under a powerful religious leader .. drawing after it thousands of deluded worshippers .. who in reality are worshipping the devil and the beast .. this enormous world-system will be brought to a fearful end and all those connected with it will share its fate . . . many bible students believe that we have here the Roman Catholic system headed up in a fearfully apostate state .. a woman is symbolical of church (2 Cor 11:12) .. this woman v 5 stands in contrast to the Church of Christ .. which is a chaste virgin .. the true Church is espoused to one husband .. this one is given up to the kings of the earth .. the Church is the mystery of godliness .. this one is mystery Babylon .. the Church offers the cup of Salvation .. this one offers cup full of abominations .. Mystery Babylon is rich .. and it has its seat on seven hills (Rome) .. Christ is seen here as the .. One Who shall overcome all false systems .. establishing himself as Lord of lords and King of kings ..... Revelation 17
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jar
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Message 47 of 82 (720203)
02-20-2014 8:20 PM
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02-20-2014 5:29 PM


Re: makin my case
Revelation is talking about stuff that happened about 1800 years ago. It's ancient history.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 48 of 82 (720206)
02-20-2014 8:31 PM
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02-20-2014 8:20 PM


Re: makin my case
That view is known as Preterism and it is growing in popularity, but it's only one of about half a dozen different interpretations of end times prophecy, specifically the book of Revelation but also Thessalonians and others. I think Futurism is still the most popular view, which is basically Hal Lindsey's "Late Great Planet Earth" viewpoint, that focuses specifically on a future end times scenario with the Antichrist at the center of it and the Church raptured off the planet for the duration. I've recently heard that Idealism is another view that's growing in popularity, which treats much of the prophecy as symbolic and allegorical. I myself have been getting more persuaded lately to the view called Historicism, which is basically the view of the Protestant Reformers that prophecy is fulfilled in many events throughout history.
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Dr Adequate
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Message 49 of 82 (720208)
02-20-2014 10:12 PM
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02-20-2014 10:53 AM


If the Final False Prophet spoken of in Revelation 13 is indeed Pope Francis .. then I'm expecting all of the secular humanistic left / atheistic / false-religious-system / anti-christ / homosexual / and all the Biblical Harlot folk spoken about in Revelation 17 to glob-on to / applaud / accept and follow this guy .. He will literally rally them all together ...... My real point of observation will be IF & WHEN Pope Francis gets on the same page with and starts pointing to and singing the praises of a particular (RISING STAR) powerful political figure ........ time will tell
Well, perhaps we could make a small wager on whether the Pope, that's the head of the Roman Catholic Church, will get many atheist followers, that would be people who don't believe in God.
In the meantime, please tell me more about these "Biblical Harlot folk", I feel I could make common cause with them ... if you know what I mean.

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dadman
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Message 50 of 82 (720210)
02-20-2014 10:36 PM
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02-20-2014 10:12 PM


Mystery Babylon .. the Mother of Harlots .. Rev 17
In the meantime, please tell me more about these "Biblical Harlot folk", I feel I could make common cause with them ... if you know what I mean.
yes .. I'm sure you know them well ..... they that are of the world hear the world and the world hears them . . . all false belief coming home to Mama

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Message 51 of 82 (720212)
02-20-2014 10:51 PM
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02-20-2014 10:36 PM


TALOS THE MIGHTY! TALOS THE UNERRING! TALOS THE UNASSAILABLE
To you we give Praise! We are but maggots writhing in the filth of our own corruption! While you have ascended from the dung of mortality, and now walk among the stars! But you were once man! Aye! And as man you said, 'Let me show you the power of Talos, Stormcrown, born of the North, where my breath is long winter. I breathe now in royalty and reshape this land which is mine. I do this for you, Red Legions, for I love you.' Aye, love! Love! Even as man, great Talos cherished us. For he saw in us, in each of us, the future of Skyrim! The future of Tamriel! And there it is, friends! The ugly truth! We are the children of man! Talos is the true god of man! Ascended from flesh, to rule the realm of spirit! The very idea is inconceivable to our Elven overlords! Sharing the heavens with us? With man? Ha! They can barely tolerate our presence on earth! Today, they take away your faith. But what of tomorrow? What then? Do the elves take your homes? Your businesses? Your children? Your very lives? And what does the Empire do? Nothing! Nay, worse than nothing! The Imperial machine enforces the will of the Thalmor! Against its own people! So rise up! Rise up, children of the Empire! Rise up, Stormcloaks! Embrace the word of mighty Talos, he who is both man and Divine! For we are the children of man! And we shall inherit the heavens and earth! And we, not the Elves or their toadies, will rule Skyrim! Forever!

"Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins

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dadman
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Message 52 of 82 (720215)
02-20-2014 10:58 PM
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02-20-2014 10:51 PM


and this has what to do with the OP ??
To you we give Praise biaaatch! We is but maggots writhang up in tha filth of our own corruption! While you have ascended from tha dung of mortality, n' now strutt among tha stars muthafucka! But you was once man! Aye biaaatch! And as playa you holla'd, 'Let me show you tha juice of Talos, Stormcrown, born of tha North, where mah breath is long winter n' shit. I breathe now up in royalty n' reshape dis land which is mine. I do dis fo' you, Red Legions, fo' I gots a straight-up boner fo' yo thugged-out ass.' Aye, ludd biaaatch! Ludd biaaatch! Even as dude, pimped out Talos cherished us. For da perved-out muthafucka saw up in us, up in each of us, tha future of Skyrim! Da future of Tamriel! And there it is, playaz muthafucka! Da skanky truth! We is tha lil pimpz of man! Talos is tha legit god of man! Ascended from flesh, ta rule tha realm of spirit son! Da straight-up scam is inconceivable ta our Elven overlordz muthafucka! Sharin tha heavens wit us, biatch? With man, biatch? Ha! They can barely tolerate our presence on earth! Today, they take away yo' faith. But what tha fuck of tomorrow, biatch? What then, biatch? Do tha elves take yo' cribs, biatch? Yo crazy-ass bidnizzes, biatch? Yo crazy-ass children, biatch? Yo crazy-ass straight-up lives, biatch? And what tha fuck do tha Empire do, biatch? Nothing! Nay, worse than nothing! Da Imperial machine enforces tha will of tha Thalmor playa! Against its own playas biaaatch! So rise up! Rise up, lil pimpz of tha Empire biaaatch! Rise up, Stormcloaks muthafucka! Embrace tha word of mighty Talos, da thug whoz ass is both playa n' Divine biaaatch! For we is tha lil pimpz of man! And we shall inherit tha heavens n' earth! And we, not tha Elves or they toadies, will rule Skyrim! Forever! .. or sompthn
thank you for that information . . . my life is now changed

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hooah212002
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Message 53 of 82 (720219)
02-21-2014 1:49 AM
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02-20-2014 10:58 PM


Everything. Nothing? So Say We All!
I don't want to be human! I want to see gamma rays! I want to hear X-rays! And I want to - I want to smell dark matter! Do you see the absurdity of what I am? I can't even express these things properly because I have to - I have to conceptualize complex ideas in this stupid limiting spoken language! But I know I want to reach out with something other than these prehensile paws! And feel the wind of a supernova flowing over me! I'm a machine! And I can know much more! I can experience so much more. But I'm trapped in this absurd body! And why? Because my five creators thought that God wanted it that way!

"Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins

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frako
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Message 54 of 82 (720225)
02-21-2014 5:17 AM
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02-21-2014 1:49 AM


Re: Everything. Nothing? So Say We All!
lol i just re-watched battlestar galactica a few weeks back.

Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand
What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.

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frako
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Message 55 of 82 (720226)
02-21-2014 5:19 AM


Um is this new end times prediction gaining ground. cause if it is i think its time to invest or open up some of those we will take care of your pets after the rapture just give us all your money organisations.

Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand
What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.

Stile
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Message 56 of 82 (720250)
02-21-2014 9:07 AM
Reply to: Message 46 by dadman
02-20-2014 7:00 PM


Re: The Manifesto
dadman writes:
There will be in the tribulation period a great apostate ecclesiastical system headed up under a powerful religious leader .. drawing after it thousands of deluded worshippers .. who in reality are worshipping the devil and the beast ..
That sounds a lot like your version of "being a child of God" and "just following scripture."
I've heard of thousands of deluded worshippers saying the same thing.
It most certainly is a great apostate ecclesiastical system.
Although, in reality, they are not worshipping the devil and the beast... but that's more of a technicality because those things don't exist. No one, in reality, is worshipping the devil and the beast.
So, what's the difference between your claimed style of worship and the Catholic claimed style of worship that makes you think they are providing the false prophet and not you?

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dadman
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Message 57 of 82 (720293)
02-21-2014 11:51 AM
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02-21-2014 9:07 AM


only one body of Christ
So, what's the difference between your claimed style of worship and the Catholic claimed style of worship that makes you think they are providing the false prophet and not you?
because the actual body of Christ has no pope / human leader (substitute) as does the one-world-religion of Revelation 13
see: Matthew 23
but they do all their deeds to be noticed by men .. for they broaden their phylacteries and lengthen the tassels of their garments .. they love the place of honor at banquets and the chief seats in the synagogues .. and respectful greetings in the market places .. and being called .. Rabbi .. by men .. but do not be called Rabbi . . . for one is your teacher .. and you are all brothers .. do not call anyone on earth your father .. for one is your father .. he who is in heaven .. do not be called leaders .. for one is your Leader .. that is .. Christ .. but the greatest among you shall be your servant .. whoever exalts himself shall be humbled .. and whoever humbles himself shall be exalted .... dadmansabode.com • View topic - . .. Matthew 23:5-12
also: according to Ervin Baxter .. Revelation 13 describes the Antichrist and his religious partner .. the False Prophet .. We have proven that the Antichrist will rule over the Holy Roman Empire .. Since the crowning of Charlemagne by Pope Leo III in 800 AD .. the Holy Roman Empire has always been a partnership of two men — a political leader and a religious leader .. The political leader has always been the most powerful politician in Europe and the religious leader has always been the pope from Rome . . . It is clear to see that the Holy Roman Empire .. which is to be the last empire on earth .. will be no different .. Whoever is pope at the time of the Antichrist will be the False Prophet ... Is Germany Rising Again? | Endtime | End of the Age .. continue
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ringo
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Message 58 of 82 (720300)
02-21-2014 12:11 PM
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02-20-2014 10:36 PM


Re: Mystery Babylon .. the Mother of Harlots .. Rev 17
dadman writes:
..... they that are of the world hear the world and the world hears them . . .
I'm hearing a lot of dots. Is that Morse code?
I'm a bit dyslexic myself so I can sympathize with dysgraphia - but your point would probably come across better if you made more of an effort to write in English.

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Stile
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Message 59 of 82 (720303)
02-21-2014 12:47 PM
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02-21-2014 11:51 AM


Re: only one body of Christ
dadman writes:
because the actual body of Christ has no pope / human leader (substitute) as does the one-world-religion
Your theology has no human leader?
You don't have a Pastor/Preacher/Priest/Deacon/Leader at your church?
Or are you saying you don't go to any church?
If, indeed, you do not have any ceremonies where there is a leader... wouldn't you, yourself be the leader of your own ideas?
Edited by Stile, : "O" I wish I were an Oscar Meyer weiner...

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dadman
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Message 60 of 82 (720344)
02-21-2014 7:15 PM
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02-21-2014 12:47 PM


only one body of Christ
Your theology has no human leader?
really ?? .. do you not realize what the pope is to the catholic church ??
the vicar of Christ ?? .. a substitute Christ ?? . . . believe me you are one who needs to learn some things . . . did you totally discount the scripture I posted from Matthew 23 ?? .. call no man father .. you have but one leader and that is Christ ??
and now for the biblical perspective .. and he (God) gave some apostles .. and some prophets .. and some evangelists .. and some teaching pastors .. for the perfecting of the saints .. for the work of the ministry .. for the edifying of the body of Christ .. till we all come in the unity of the faith .. and of the knowledge of the Son of God .. to a perfect (complete) man .. to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ . . . . Ephesians 4:12 http://www.gty.org/MediaPlayer/sermons/1926 << more here

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