what about Pope Francis .. false prophet ??

How about, since you are an admin and you promoted this, you try to at least help him keep it on topic.

Have you read the crap he posted on other threads? He has proven it in his first 15 posts and it has nothing to do with being a creo. It is from his inability to contribute constructively to threads he has posted at already.

For the record, I am a cosmological creationist. I think that God created all things seen and unseen. As far as Adam & Eve and all of that Biblical lore, I am not a literalist, though I do believe that God is interacting with humanity here on our planet.I dont see the Bible as word for word literal although I DO see it as thought for thought accurate. It is not merely some book assembled by illiterate bronze age goat herders...it has some of the deepest philosophical musings that humanity has ever produced.I also believe that Jesus is alive and lives through us as well as living eternally.I used to believe in end times prophecy...but currently the jury is out on that one.I think that end times prophecy could become a self fulfilling prophecy if people don't question it and examine the facts of an educated secular society.

So assume..for a moment...that dadman is a young believer who has limited critical thinking skills and raised in dogma. Did it ever occur to you that you could attempt to teach him something rather than simply jump on him for his beliefs? The whole purpose of a forum is to initiate dialogue and stimulate thinking...not to trash anyone who-God forbid--has a different view from your own.Many Biblical Christians believe that there will be an antichrist and a false prophet. Perhaps we can learn why dadman feels this way.

Is it that hard?

Our topic is about Pope Francis. What do you think of the new Pope? Does he seem in any way insincere or has he any ulterior motives that you can discern?

Pretty good for a Pope. Nope.
Waiting for our new member to actually present something to discuss. Usually that happens in the OP.

Personally I would agree that Popes in general are no substitute for Jesus. Some folks think that all of us are charged to be Christlike while here on earth. They would argue that Jesus showed us how to live and how to treat others. Speaking of which....

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I'm expecting all of the secular humanistic left / atheistic / false-religious-system / anti-christ / homosexual / and all the Biblical Harlot folk spoken about in Revelation 17 ...

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does God hate leftists?
Can people help their sexual orientation?Just some food for thought....

I'm very disappointed by this pope - he seems to be quite decent and he's a reforming type that might just pull off a few good changes in the Vatican and get back to a few of the basics of what Christianity is supposed to be about.I was hoping for yet another dogmatic, 'cover-up and carry on' type so it could hasten the demise of the whole fetid edifice.Pity, we might have to wait a bit longer now.

yeah well ... I really don't waste mush time w/ folks who already know everytrhing .. they just really turn me off .. so anyhow I'll move along and maybe find a thread with some down to earth people who realize they don't yet know everything . . . thanks for your time ...... later Edited by dadman, : No reason given.

the problem is that you proved your critics right. You ended up discussing nothing. Keep in mind that we are unlikely to promote any new topics if you cant keep your old ones going.I tried to initiate dialogue by asking you questions....

I suppose that makes looking in the mirror rather problematic for you. You have, yourself, come across as quite dogmatic. If you're here to discuss then ... welcome. If you're here to pontificate then ... bye.[abe]Let me clarify. Your being dogmatic in your your beliefs is not an issue. A problem appears that you do not seem to appreciate having your dogma questioned by someone else's dogma.In these parts your dogma will be challenged quite directly and forcefully by multiple other dogmas equally as staunch. So, if your heart is set on having your beliefs stated to go unchallenged (pontificating) then this is not the playground for you. If you have a thin skin then you would probably do better elsewhere.But, if you want some fun having your beliefs challenged, poked and prodded while you challenge, poke and prod others then come on in. Set a spell. Take your shoes off. Get comfortable and get mad and welcome to EvC.Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

Actually, the topic is about whether there is a Biblical basis for the proposition that the pope is the anti-Christ or something similar. Except that there doesn't seem to be any need to actually back that proposition up in this thread.I suppose I should learn to be more tolerant of intolerance. Like perhaps signaling the end times?

The leaders of the Reformation (Luther, Calvin, Zwingli etc.) from their study of the Bible came to regard the papacy as the Antichrist -- the word meaning "in the place of Christ," the ultimate enemy of Christ. Their objection to the papacy was really the foundation for their leaving the institution (they had all been Catholics, and all but Calvin had been priests as well), even more foundational perhaps than their famous objection to doctrine that brought about the Protestant watchwords, the "solas: -- "Faith alone in Christ alone through grace alone by Scripture alone" As opposed to the RCC's man-made traditions, including the "infallible" Pope's decrees.Most Christians are looking for THE Antichrist, understood to be a figure who is to appear at the end of time (which a lot of us believe is very close), and don't consider the papacy to be Antichrist as did the Reformers. As I've been learning over the last couple of years this is a big mistake. The Reformers knew what they were talking about.Whether any given Pope is going to be the final Antichrist -- or the False Prophet, who is servant to the Antichrist -- is probably less important than understanding from scripture that the institution of the papacy itself fits the portrait.Pope Francis seems to be knocking himself out ingratiating himself with everyone in the world, and in the process throwing aside a lot of Biblical doctrine, especially anything about sin, as if nobody needs to repent of sin any more to qualify for salvation, or have any regard for Christ either. If this is setting him up for some special role in the end days, time will tell. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

indeed .. time will tell