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Author Topic:   SCIENCE: -- "observational science" vs "historical science" vs ... science.
Pressie
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Message 144 of 614 (731799)
06-30-2014 8:57 AM
Reply to: Message 142 by Faith
06-30-2014 2:30 AM


Re: Siccar Point
I've got no clue about scissor point.
Could you give some explanation and opinions about your profound knowledge relating to all those different forms of contacts between the the Cape Supergroup and the Karoo Supergroup? It seems as if you studied them all extensively.

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Pressie
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Message 409 of 614 (735119)
08-06-2014 1:16 AM
Reply to: Message 406 by Faith
08-06-2014 12:18 AM


Faith writes:
Really because of entrenched bias, a lack of willingness to understand anything a creationist would say.
Nope. It's because of the history in dealing with creationists.
Creationists tend to lack providing evidence for what they claim and assert. They don't follow the scientific method.

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Pressie
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Message 412 of 614 (735124)
08-06-2014 7:13 AM
Reply to: Message 406 by Faith
08-06-2014 12:18 AM


Faith writes:
Not being able to recognize that you cannot test or prove the scenarios about the prehistoric past shows...
Well, we can test whether lavas can turn into coal seams or not. Just go to Hawaii. Solidifying lavas over there have never been witnessed to turn into coal seams. Those lavas have always tended to become some form of a basalt. Witnessed.
Faith writes:
... a real mental problem.
I think the mental problem lies with the person who is not able to distinguish a basalt from a coal seam.

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Pressie
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Message 416 of 614 (735137)
08-06-2014 9:03 AM
Reply to: Message 406 by Faith
08-06-2014 12:18 AM


Faith writes:
I think the distinction in the end comes down to whether there are witnesses or not.
Lots of witnesses testified than lava would turn into igneous rocks. Not into coal seams. All in peer-reviewed, scientific journals.

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Pressie
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Message 423 of 614 (735148)
08-06-2014 9:30 AM
Reply to: Message 418 by Faith
08-06-2014 9:25 AM


So, Faith, are you telling us that those black rocks we call the Drakensberg basalts were not a result of volcanic action; just because no human witnessed them forming?
Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.

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Pressie
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Message 430 of 614 (735196)
08-07-2014 4:59 AM
Reply to: Message 429 by herebedragons
08-06-2014 10:02 AM


I got brainwashed by the rocks themselves!
I got brainwashed by the rocks, themselves, into concluding that the earth is very, very old. Just by logging a core through the Springbok Flats Coalfield in my second year at uni.
Faith, like all those creationists writing on religious websites, where he gets his so-called information from, struggles to distinguish between the words 'assumption' and 'conclusion'. Just like he struggles to distinguish between a basalt and a coal seam.
Wish they could learn the difference. But, seeing that Faith mentioned IQ's of 80, I doubt it.

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Pressie
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Message 440 of 614 (735248)
08-08-2014 7:54 AM
Reply to: Message 437 by petrophysics1
08-07-2014 3:26 PM


Re: working geologists do observational science
petrophysics1 writes:
I’ve read the paper you mentioned and got the same out of it except it is written by a university type.
I read about the author; he's a philospher; obviously not a scientist at all. Philosophy type; not a scientist type. He's never done a day's work in the natural sciences in his life.
Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.

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