Jesus was born under a palm tree, not in a manger.

Yes, I can think of several Old Testament prophecies that were fulfilled, none of course likely ever happened and absolutely NO Old Testament Prophecies refer to Jesus or anything in the New Testament. Of course. Because it is more reasonable and logical and the converse simply makes Christianity a joke and fraud. Of course. We are charged by the Bible to correct God when God is about to make a mistake.And again, what does it even mean to say that God or Jesus are alive today?

It means that because of His sacfrifice...life eternal is possible for humanity...whether the earth blows up, whether we all kill each other,or whether we fail...as individuals or as a species....He overcame the death that we otherwise would have.The critic may say that for us to be initially damned is cruel and barbaric...and I might see their point. Your assertion that we are charged...responsible...is not a crazy teaching, but I would add that we are only able to be charged thanks to His sacrifice and resurrection. He gave us the ability to succeed. It was not due to our own wisdom, logic, and reason.You think its a cop-out to simply say that Jesus paid our bill...but I am saying we would never succeed had He not done so.And...I am in agreement that we are responsible to try and do our best. We can't simply refuse to try.

Word salad, copout and totally irrelevant to the question asked.And again, what does it even mean to say that God or Jesus are alive today?

I am agnostic. What I'm saying is that if there is a God, it is almost certainly not the voodoo Sky Daddy that you wish for. The God you believe in is fiction. As for Jesus, i think he's probably a composite of several real people, like most fictional characters.The Bible accounts of Jesus (and God) are strictly fiction, made up by men. Any resemblence to actual persons or events is purely coincidental.

What does it mean to you? Is it important?

I have no idea what you mean by it. That is why, in case you missed it, I asked what it even means. What you posted though had absolutely nothing to do with Jesus being alive today and everything to do with "what's in it for Phat".

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I have no idea why any true Christian would feel that it was their calling in life to disprove prophecies....offering absolutely no support for any of the Bible from whence their faith originated...but oh well....

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You have no idea why a Christian would be honest or care about what the Bible really says ? Then I have to pity you.

Im not saying that its just about me. The message is for all of us.

No, sorry but it is not for all of us.Is it for the atheists, agnostics, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Taoists, Animists, Satanists, Buddhists ... ?

It is my understanding that it is for whosoever.....And I knoiw that you argue that God could care less who even believes in Him....and that it is what we do yada yada yadaseen any goats lately? I might add that everyone will have a chance to meet Jesus. If they still refuse to acknowledge Him, what happens then?if you were invited to a party (feast, bar-b-que whatever...and you had not the decency to acknowledge the host of the party, it would be between your conscience and his.Edited by Phat, : added jabberwocky

But you don't say what "whosoever" means.And have you read the Bible Phat?When Jesus threw the pachanga by the sea shore did he ask folk to believe in him before they could enjoy the fish fry?

Im guessing that there was no one there who didnt know who He was and who didnt have the greatest respect for Him.

Too funny.Sorry but that is just silly. The area and time was filled with preachers an prophets and Jesus was a total unknown.There is NOTHING in the story to suggest that "there was no one there who didnt know who He was and who didnt have the greatest respect for Him."You're just making stuff up again and adding to what is written.

OK I'll buy that...I was thinking of after His death not the gatherings before...my point is that we cant just throw parties...invite all the people...and not have a message that they need to hear. We cant represent our own selves and talk about course and vulgar daily peculiarities and expect these people to get the idea that they can be themselves and still be welcome in Heaven. They need transformation and communion.....not folksy gatherings around a keg with some fish.

Jesus never talked to folk about heaven, he dealt with the here and now; feed the hungry, clothe the naked, comfort the sorrowful, heal the sick, educate the ignorant.Heaven has almost nothing to do with Jesus message. Bullshit. What the hell does "transformation and communion" even mean. You never have explained the difference between communing and a bad burrito anyway.