Why "YEC"/Fundamentalist Creationism is BAD for America

Pick whatever topic you want, but just follow the rules and you threads will probably get promoted quickly.

Go to the "hast thou entered into treasures of the snow thread"' in is this science, I'd like to hear your thoughts.

I tend to avoid the bible-based threads.

Lol. The bible is the text for the creationist view. I think you are in the wrong place. Edited by Jaf, : No reason given.

the problem is that YEC is not a monolithic venture. there are young earth creationists who acknowledge that the bible is their primary source, and others that like to pretend it's a purely scientific venture (that coincidentally agrees with their reading of the bible). similarly, there people here who only want to discuss science, the scientific objections to creationism, and the scientific ramifications. perhaps coyote is one of those people. there are others who are perfectly willing to talk about both religion and science, and still others who are primarily interested in the religious aspects.and so here, we have multiple fora where we can discuss the purely scientific, the purely religious, and various degrees of combinations. this forum is in the "science forums" section, where science (and not the bible) is the primary driving force of the discussion; here we will discuss the bible only in so far as it relates to science, testable claims, etc. over in the "social and religious forums" section, we'll only talk about science in so far as it relates to the bible, but religious concerns are the primary driving factor.

That's not true. I'm a Christian. No, you were talking about belonging to the classification, regardless of whether or not you accept it, if you belong to the classification then you do belong. One of the things you are not free to do, because its impossible, is discount yourself from a classification just because you don't accept the ramifications of belonging to it.

I tend to avoid theistic evolutionists. Edited by Jaf, : No reason given.

Yes, and the problem with this is that knowledge is not decided by popularity or by voting -- especially by people that are undereducated and ignorant of the details that go into scientific knowledge.Edited by RAZD, : ..

at it's most basic someone who believes in some form of creation.creationism is broken down into various flavours:Creationism - WikipediaOf these the Young Earth Creationists (YEC) are -- imho -- as deluded as flat earth believers, because the age of the earth is demonstrably older than 6,000 years by several factors by simple counting methods.And that delusion is why their beliefs should not be included in public school science classes.

The US constitution provides specifically for separation of church and state and explicitly states that no one religion or religious view shall be "established" or endorsed by any public function. This includes public schools but does restrict private schools.This preserves all our freedoms. People who want to teach their children delusional ideas are free to do so via home schooling or a private school if that suits their beliefs.Belief cannot be enforced by legislation.

The idea is simple: if you are going to argue a position -- no matter what it is -- in a thread, that your position needs to be stated. That defines what you are going to defend in the thread.So far you have been given a lot of latitude to just make random statements of highly questionable value. When you start a thread you need to rise up to a higher intellectual standard of quality and defend it with substance.Good luck

Kind of like only a chosen few can decide what's good for us and what's truth and what isn't, like the dark ages?

We'll the bible is yec, which is why I don't get the popes mates advocating for theistic evolution.

I understand how you would like me to behave but the undertone of many responses is very subjective and non scientific and a personal attack.

You came here with a chip on your shoulder and didn't follow our rules.What kind of welcome did you expect?If you had been here a while you would know that the moderators bend over backwards for creationists, and they are allowed behavior that would get any of the rest of us suspended for a while.