I don't believe in God, I believe in Gravity

Ffs

If you cut a man's head off, he dies. If he doesn't, it's a miracle. This isn't a matter of not enough knowledge, that's totally within the realm of our knowledge. Of course it does; it tells us that the supernatural exists.And until something equivalent happens, the supernatural doesn't exist.

Maybe you just have a very low standard for evidence because from your example I see no evidence for the supernatural.

Very well.And once we've figured it out and reworked our theories to accommodate the new observations?

There can be no reworking of theories to accommodate a living man with his head on the floor a month after decapitation, now can there?Quite apart from the immediate and terminal loss of blood and the destruction of the nervous system, he's also starved to death.

So that's it?No desire for honest discussion?

Rather, I have a very high standard of evidence, but I am also prepared to follow it where it leads me. Even if that takes me into areas which I currently believe to be impossible.I'd love to hear how a decapitated man can live for a month and why you don't think we know enough to claim it to be impossible.

Eh? What do you think we're doing?

Too funny. So would I but at least I would know enough to not claim it was impossible since it had happened.That is why I would place it in the unknown/unexplained folder instead of continuing to think it was impossible.But labeling it as supernatural seems pretty silly until there was actual evidence of the supernatural.

That, dear Jar, is what the supernatural IS, or is supposed to be - the impossible happening.If you want to define it away, so that it can't happen linguistically, you're just messing around with words not meanings and I have no time for that crap.

Are you saying that even when we know something did happen it is impossible that it happened?If you want to claim that something that did happen is impossible to happen I gotta wonder about you in many ways.

Like I say, I'm not interested in linguistic crap - you know perfectly well what is being said.Do you believe it possible to be a christian without accepting Christ's resurrection?

Immense. It is the same as not needing to add air to your tires and not being able to. The difference begins when we stop verifying the premises.

Yes.AbE:I don't know why you keep asking questions I've answered time after time.The question is whether or not there is anyway that the supernatural could be evidenced not what could be accepted unevidenced. It is not a matter of belief but rather science.Someone may believe that your example is a miracle but that is NOT scientific. Edited by jar, : see AbE:

No, I don't.What you're failing to take into consideration is that our current definitions on the philosophy of science are based on the universe we currently live in.What we're discussing, are hypothetical situations that are not based on the universe we currently live in.It's like asking "why can't women play in the NHL?"
And you keep insisting that only men play in the NHL.Yes... that's the way things are, but the question doesn't concern the way things are... it concerns a hypothetical situation that heavily implies "what if things are different from the way we currently think of them?"