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Author Topic:   WTF is wrong with people
Phat
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Message 3 of 457 (707464)
09-27-2013 12:51 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by frako
09-27-2013 11:18 AM


You Can Lead A Horse To Water
Frako writes:
Now can someone explain to me how this and worse can be still going on in the 21 century.
Human nature has not really evolved emotionally nearly as much as has our educational awareness evolved logically. People believe what they believe not based so much on logic but through emotional situations such as peer acceptance, confirmation bias, and comfort zones in general. We freely choose what to believe and/or not believe. Some folks wont believe anything not backed by evidence...logic, reason, and reality. Other folks have been taught to not trust science in general....they have been taught that humanity is by and large imperfect by nature and thus any type of logic that does not include or give homage to God is suspect.
How do we stop it, or what can be done about it?
You can lead a horse to water but you can't stop him from preferring vodka.

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Message 432 of 457 (708909)
10-16-2013 10:21 AM
Reply to: Message 426 by Coyote
10-16-2013 1:02 AM


Re: Reasons why this thread is due for Summary
Coyote writes:
The human mind is the most powerful and wonderful thing we have, and it is sad to see one wasted on myth, nonsense, and delusion.
To deny reality in the face of overwhelming evidence is to waste and deny that wonderful mind.
Its entertaining to read these debates/discussions because through our words, we all get to "know" each other in an anecdotal sense. Interactions between humans are part of the process...imagine a man--a scientist--living alone on a planet who came up with several theories (and perhaps a few facts) on his own...without any interaction with others. Would his work be important? If so, to whom?

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Message 433 of 457 (708911)
10-16-2013 10:23 AM
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10-16-2013 8:56 AM


Re: A partial summary.
jar writes:
In the case of issues we often address here that conflict does devolve to changing the status of the Bible. So called Biblical Christians have a status quo that is based on denying evidence and finding work arounds that allow them to maintain the comfortable fictions. They begin by believing that the Bible is without contradictions even though the very first two books of the Bible are mutually exclusive.
Did it ever occur to you that apparent contradictions cause one to think?

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Message 435 of 457 (708914)
10-16-2013 10:55 AM
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10-16-2013 10:37 AM


Re: A partial summary.
perhaps, but I dont believe that critical thinking is the same for everyone. One man may "throw god away" since they believe that GOD, if GOD exists will exist anyway and expects that person to freely question and doubt. Another man may believe that God cannot be thrown away to begin with...it would be like throwing the air or the water away...impossible. Both may be honest yet both may arrive at differing conclusions.

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Message 451 of 457 (708993)
10-18-2013 5:58 PM
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10-16-2013 11:38 AM


Re: A partial summary.
Because God imagined/created us long before we had even evolved the intelligence to "make Him up."

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