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Author Topic:   The Human Eating-Speaking System - Bad Design?
NoNukes
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Message 6 of 27 (706799)
09-17-2013 8:13 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Jon
09-16-2013 6:44 PM


the alternative designs presented are far more complicated and 'hardware heavy' than what they benefit the species in way of removing the choking hazard.
What's the minimum amount of the eating system required for talking? I'd suggest that almost none of the eating system is needed. Talking birds manage to imitate human speech without teeth or lips.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I believe that a scientist looking at nonscientific problems is just as dumb as the next guy.
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NoNukes
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Message 20 of 27 (707280)
09-25-2013 6:01 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by 1.61803
09-25-2013 5:39 PM


Hi Caffeine, some folks say , "Parrots do not really talk, just mimic human speech."
What I've read on the subject agrees with you. At least some birds are capable of learning to use human speech to communicate in a limited way.
I'm not sure that even matters. The point is that the physical apparatus that birds have works fine, so we can eliminate some of the human eating apparatus as being required for speech.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I believe that a scientist looking at nonscientific problems is just as dumb as the next guy.
Richard P. Feynman
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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NoNukes
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Message 25 of 27 (707298)
09-26-2013 4:57 AM
Reply to: Message 21 by Jon
09-25-2013 9:26 PM


Well, I've done some searching, and I haven't found an example of birds speaking in any clear manner.
Then either your search is poor or your evaluation is off.
Einstein the parrot speaks well enough to end this sorry excuse for a discussion thread. The parrot makes sounds that are "sufficient enough for carrying the complex thoughts of our complex brains."

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I believe that a scientist looking at nonscientific problems is just as dumb as the next guy.
Richard P. Feynman
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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