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Author Topic:   God’s glitch in Eden. A & E had to break God’s second command to accomplish the first
NoNukes
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Message 31 of 95 (703923)
07-30-2013 10:30 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by Greatest I am
07-30-2013 10:49 AM


If they would have then they would not have suddenly covered up their genitals after their eyes were opened.
So your opinion is that adults learning what their genitals were for makes them ashamed of themselves? In my opinion, that's pretty inane. Do you suppose that all of that time Adam spent naming the animals did not provide him any clue as to what a penis was?
It seems likely that Adam at least, knew exactly what his Johnson could do, and that only his disobedience made him ashamed of having sex.
And the fact still remains that there is no Biblical support for the idea that God commanded Adam to be fruitful before there was even an Eve and every reason to believe that Genesis does not say that God was an idiot.

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ringo
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Message 32 of 95 (703974)
07-31-2013 4:22 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Greatest I am
07-28-2013 11:07 AM


In one story, the Big Bad Wolf likes to eat pigs. In another, he likes little girls. There's no contradiction, just two different stories.

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Greatest I am
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Message 33 of 95 (704132)
08-04-2013 11:20 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by ringo
07-31-2013 4:22 PM


No contradiction?
You think girls are pigs!
Tsk,tsk.
Regards
DL

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Greatest I am
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Message 34 of 95 (704133)
08-04-2013 11:28 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by NoNukes
07-30-2013 10:30 PM


No. Learning they had genitals taught them that it is good manners to cover up.
Did you keep running around naked in public when you learned about sexual organs but before you leaned how to use it?
Of course not.
Why would you then expect A & E would?
I wish I could use the quote function but alas I cannot get it to work.
"And the fact still remains that there is no Biblical support for the idea that God commanded Adam to be fruitful before there was even an Eve and every reason to believe that Genesis does not say that God was an idiot."
Yes there is. They were told to reproduce in genesis 1 and did not till being expelled from Eden. This is after God stupidly offering other animals to be Adam's helpmeat.
If you do not think that that makes God an idiot then I would question your own mentality.
Regards
DL

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Greatest I am
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Message 35 of 95 (704134)
08-04-2013 11:31 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by Dr Adequate
07-30-2013 7:41 PM


You do not need to know everything. That is true. But you need to know something about it and since that something will have good and evil aspects, A & E could not know of it.
Regards
DL

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Greatest I am
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Message 36 of 95 (704136)
08-04-2013 11:34 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by New Cat's Eye
07-30-2013 3:03 PM


The quote function I cannot get to work.
Animals go by scent. If the female is not ready they will not smell what turns them on and they would know that that is evil.
Having the scent there is good.
Go play with your animals. I want to discuss humans.
Regards
DL

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Greatest I am
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Message 37 of 95 (704137)
08-04-2013 11:35 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by jar
07-30-2013 3:01 PM


Re: GIA still misrepresenting stuff and making up strawmen.
Time on your hands I see.
Regards
DL

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Greatest I am
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Message 38 of 95 (704138)
08-04-2013 11:37 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by New Cat's Eye
07-30-2013 3:01 PM


So many questions yet you refuse to give answers.
Regards
DL

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Coyote
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Message 39 of 95 (704139)
08-05-2013 12:13 AM
Reply to: Message 36 by Greatest I am
08-04-2013 11:34 PM


Quote function
The quote function I cannot get to work.
Greatest writes:
The quote function I cannot get to work.
Go to "Peek" at the bottom right of this post and you can see the coding I used for these two quotes.

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Greatest I am
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Message 40 of 95 (704147)
08-05-2013 7:18 AM
Reply to: Message 39 by Coyote
08-05-2013 12:13 AM


Re: Quote function
I find that screen easy enough but it does not allow me to do anything with what is there.
I see the quote sign you use but I still can do nothing with this screen.
Regards
DL

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 41 of 95 (704152)
08-05-2013 10:17 AM
Reply to: Message 36 by Greatest I am
08-04-2013 11:34 PM


Animals go by scent. If the female is not ready they will not smell what turns them on and they would know that that is evil.
Having the scent there is good.
Are you saying that animals have the knowledge of good and evil?
Anyways, we were talking about a dog humping my leg. That doesn't have anything to do with scent.
Go play with your animals. I want to discuss humans.
Well I replied outlining your position on humans and then rebutted it. You're the one who brought the animals back up, so make up your mind already. Here's what I wrote:
quote:
But we were talking about humans that did not know good and evil. You're argument was that they couldn't have sex. Animals are an example of creatures that do not know good and evil but can still have sex. There's no reason to think that those humans would have been any different.

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 42 of 95 (704153)
08-05-2013 10:18 AM
Reply to: Message 38 by Greatest I am
08-04-2013 11:37 PM


So many questions yet you refuse to give answers.
Your argument remains refuted.
There's no reason to think that A&E needed to eat from the tree in order to have sex.

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jar
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Message 43 of 95 (704154)
08-05-2013 10:23 AM
Reply to: Message 42 by New Cat's Eye
08-05-2013 10:18 AM


Pretty clear GIA never read the Bible
This whole thread has been a laugh since God did not tell Adam and Eve to go forth and multiply. Gen 1 is NOT the story in Gen 2-4. Two different unrelated stories.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Coyote
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Message 44 of 95 (704157)
08-05-2013 10:49 AM
Reply to: Message 40 by Greatest I am
08-05-2013 7:18 AM


Re: Quote function
Don't try to do anything with the Peek screen. That just shows you how things were done.
When you make a post just type the first quote code, paste what you want to quote, then type the second quote code. Like this:
I see the quote sign you use but I still can do nothing with this screen.

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Greatest I am
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Message 45 of 95 (704163)
08-05-2013 12:35 PM
Reply to: Message 42 by New Cat's Eye
08-05-2013 10:18 AM


Does sex have good and evil aspects?
If so then A & E could not know of it as they knew nothing of anything that had good and evil aspects.
If you want to lie to yourself and think you refuted the premise then keep your lie inflated head.
Regards
DL

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