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starlite Member (Idle past 3238 days) Posts: 83 Joined: |
Then it has to be laziness also to claim a singularity existed you know not why or how, and burped out the universe for no known reason.
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starlite Member (Idle past 3238 days) Posts: 83 Joined: |
Well, rude one, if you claim it is 'laziness' to claim God exists because no scientific evidence exists then where is the evidence for where the singularity that the big bang started from? How about the first lifeform, show the evidence where it was and what it was?
At least for the bible and God we have a long history of proofs and evidences.
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starlite Member (Idle past 3238 days) Posts: 83 Joined: |
I was addressing your comment. Try to comment on topic then.
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starlite Member (Idle past 3238 days) Posts: 83 Joined: |
No need, the evidences for the spiritual and God are known. The issue is whether we deny and reject and ignore or not.
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starlite Member (Idle past 3238 days) Posts: 83 Joined: |
ok
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starlite Member (Idle past 3238 days) Posts: 83 Joined: |
Nice story. I liked the imaginary years bit especially. Now, when you show some of those little critters producing man, heck, even a bug or something...get back to us.
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starlite Member (Idle past 3238 days) Posts: 83 Joined: |
If the little hot soup did nothing, then in your mind no expansion would have happened, that is supposed to be something. Or do you admit it is really nothing!?
Why consider math that has no application or bearing on reality? If there was a teeny weeny hot soup, and soon after, the universe appeared, that seems to have to mean something happened. Not sure how mentioning y or x or some imaginary plot or line changes that?
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starlite Member (Idle past 3238 days) Posts: 83 Joined: |
If if if. Bottom line is that your line and math is imaginary and a what if. No reality to it. Now if a hot little soup that was too small at one point to see with the naked eye popped out the universe, that is doing something!
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starlite Member (Idle past 3238 days) Posts: 83 Joined:
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quote:Let's not quibble over terms here. If all that is the universe came sailing out of that little sweet nothing I think we can refer to it as a thing. If we refer to the universe as a thing, why not!? quote:More quibbling. If there was no singularity what would have expanded!!? quote:Like you would know. quote:You should get a fine each time you even use the word time. Define it? quote:Obviously there was no time in the created universe before the universe existed! quote: Easier to storytell.
quote: Says you who couldn't possibly know. Why even talk?
quote:Never never land then. OK. Fantasy. Speculation. Modeling based on earth time and space and etc. quote:I'll say!! quote:Well put! quote: So if there was no magic singularity, what could have expanded or done anything? Pretty fuzzy and funny stuff. Edited by starlite, : No reason given.
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starlite Member (Idle past 3238 days) Posts: 83 Joined: |
Except science about the origins of life or the universe IS belief and nothing at all else.
tks
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starlite Member (Idle past 3238 days) Posts: 83 Joined: |
quote: quote:OK looks like we need to do baby steps with you then. If there was no singularity little soup thingie (sorry if I get technical) then do you claim the universe would still have expanded? One assumes that what expanded was that little hot soup, no? Otherwise what was it exactly? quote:The universe then had to be real small to expand. So what does a singularity have to do with it if it was not from the hot soup singularity it expanded? You think the hot soup was just an observer on the sidelines? ![]() quote:Well you admit the theory is not based on knowledge? Good start. quote:Science should be about knowing something though. Get back to us when you do I guess. quote:So talk. We can keep in mind it is a fairy tale and you admit not knowing. quote:In your dreams perhaps. So far we see you post only the latter. quote:Because creation is where the universe came from so obviously there was no time here before that! You can say it was the hot soup that was here, but you admit not really knowing. Many call that religion. quote:So the teensie hot soup was not a singularity? It was what, just the little non thing the whole universe came from? Or...the universe was here just real small!? ![]()
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starlite Member (Idle past 3238 days) Posts: 83 Joined: |
quote:No, I was taught science was something akin to knowledge. It took time to realize it is a joke when it comes to origins. quote: Since we are being honest, do you think Jesus created the world and heavens...or that He sort of sat in the sidelines while the big bang dunnit?
quote:I accept that Jesus created it all.
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starlite Member (Idle past 3238 days) Posts: 83 Joined: |
Genesis does not record any fuse lighting. As for what scientists may do or not, that is up to the individual. I merely point out they do not know at all, and that the tales about origin of life and the universe are pure religion, not any real science.
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starlite Member (Idle past 3238 days) Posts: 83 Joined: |
Ok so if you are right, we should not call the little hot soup that spawned the universe the singularity. That soup was the universe. Thanks for that. Nice to get the fable straight. I will have to get a second opinion of course, but we can go with that for now.
Edited by starlite, : No reason given.
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