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Christianity is HISTORY above all, history that is intended to demonstrate the nature of God so that we might believe in Him.

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Is it ? You'd think that if that was God's intent we'd find rather better supporting evidence for the Bible in other histories and in archaeology.

I refer you to Pascal who said the Bible gives enough light for believers but keeps the insincere in darkness, as they prefer. He isn't in the business of convincing people who won't make the effort to do it His way.

Narcissism is never an appealing trait, and you carry it to such extremes.

But please stop whining that nobody shares your own ludicrously high opinion of yourself.

In other words Christianity is a religion of dogma, not history.

Narcissism, arrogance, oh well. Beam me up, Lord, soon please.

Sigh. Dogma is nothing but the collection of facts revealed in the history. Of course it's dogma, but dogma based on historical revelation.

WHY DO I BOTHER?

faith writes: You don't understand any of this I'm afraid. I read a lot of Buddhism and Hinduism on my way to Christianity and there is NO comparison. WHATEVER. Christianity is HISTORY above all, history that is intended to demonstrate the nature of God so that we might believe in Him. The others are DOCTRINES and Buddhism doesn't even acknowledge God. Even Islam which is a ridiculous rip-off of Biblical religion is mostly a bunch of doctrines, like "Kill Jews" and that sort of inspiring bit of dogma. But you believe what you believe and facts aren't going to change your mind.

Why is your religion better? You don't think Hindu, Muslims feel the same about theirs. Islam is the fastest growing religion in North America. Don't you think the new converts vetted Christianity with Islam and found Islam better.

You are stuck on a uniqueness and specialness which every religion says with as much enthusiasm as you do.
Unique, simply isn't. It's more of the same. You are the same as other religions.

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Dogma is nothing but the collection of facts revealed in the history. Of course it's dogma, but dogma based on historical revelation.

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The point is that it is not supportable by evidence and reason. It has to be assumed. Even the idea that it is based on revelation is dogma.

If investigation finds that your "HISTORY" is myth and legend - which you dogmatically believe despite the evidence - then what is the point of the claim that Christianity is a religion of "HISTORY" ? What makes it better than any other religion with myths and legends ?

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WHY DO I BOTHER?

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Why DON'T you bother to think things through ?

Why is your religion better? ... You are stuck on a uniqueness and specialness which every religion says with as much enthusiasm as you do. Unique, simply isn't. It's more of the same. You are the same as other religions.

Christ died for our sins, so we don't have to go to Hell. Islam and Hinduism and Judaism and Mormonism and Buddhism will all take you straight to Hell because they have no solution to the problem of sin.

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faith writes: Christ died for our sins, so we don't have to go to Hell. It's about CONTENT, not about "uniqueness" as such. Islam and Hinduism and Mormonism and Buddhism will take you all straight to Hell because they have nio solution to the problem of sin.

Everybody dies. How long was he dead for before he was swinging with the top guys? God knew it would happen so what's the big deal?
If the millennia studiers of Hindu, Buddha, Hindu and Mormonism are all going to hell... why is god so incompetent he can't simply prove himself instead of sending 2/3's of the planet to hell because of his inability.
You are waiting to get beamed up like every Hindu, Muslim and Mormon does.

Well if you're going to eliminate Christ's salvation and reduce Christianity to the level of all the other religions, you're right, it's all the same thing and we're all going to Hell together. Fortunately you're wrong.

faith writes: Well if you're going to eliminate Christ's salvation and reduce Christianity to the level of all the other religions, you're right, it's all the same thing and we're all going to Hell together. Fortunately you're wrong.

Don't worry Faith nobody is going to hell. They made that shit up.
You don't even have proof Christ existed let alone proof there is a god or god had a son. Lot's of gods had sons that you don't believe in.
It's no different than what you do with a hundred other gods and sons of god. You don't believe them. They are myth.

I DID post something a while back Message 1808 that shows that Christianity did not make up Hell, that there are versions of Hell in just about every ancient culture and religion.

They just don't have a way to keep sinners out of Hell. Christianity does.

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Faith, are you seriously claiming that Islam and Buddhism teach that everyone will end up in Hell ? Or are you just claiming that they can't keep people out of Hell because they aren't Christianity ? And if neither of those, just what are you saying ?

I'm saying they all have a concept of Hell which is a place for the wicked in the afterlife. No, they don't think everybody is going there because they have no appreciation of the Fall and the depths of human sin. They think you can stay out of Hell by being "good" but the Bible makes it clear that nobody is good enough to stay out of Hell (though it does indicate that there are degrees of Hell so not everybody would be down at the bottom level with the Really Bad Guys, whoever they are, we probably don't have a good idea of that). Islam actually thinks suicide bombers are going to their version of heaven or Paradise, maybe the craziest deception anybody ever dreamed up. They think it's good to lie for their faith too. So if you believe that, you can go to their "heaven" with them.

Meanwhile the Bible gives us the Law, nicely condensed in the Ten Commandments, so that we can know that any violation of same, from lying to adultery to covetousness to stealing to dishonoring parents, earns us a place in Hell. Which is where we'd all go if Jesus hadn't come to save us from it, as promised all through the Old Testament.

But of course if you've so destroyed the integrity of the Bible that none of this survives you're up a creek with all the others.

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