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Author | Topic: Is the Bible the inerrant word of God? Or is it the words of men? | ||||||||||||||||||||
PaulK Member Posts: 17179 Joined: |
quote: Is it ? You'd think that if that was God's intent we'd find rather better supporting evidence for the Bible in other histories and in archaeology.
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Faith ![]() Suspended Member (Idle past 763 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I refer you to Pascal who said the Bible gives enough light for believers but keeps the insincere in darkness, as they prefer. He isn't in the business of convincing people who won't make the effort to do it His way.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17179 Joined: |
Narcissism is never an appealing trait, and you carry it to such extremes.
But please stop whining that nobody shares your own ludicrously high opinion of yourself.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17179 Joined: |
In other words Christianity is a religion of dogma, not history.
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Faith ![]() Suspended Member (Idle past 763 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Narcissism, arrogance, oh well. Beam me up, Lord, soon please.
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Faith ![]() Suspended Member (Idle past 763 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Sigh. Dogma is nothing but the collection of facts revealed in the history. Of course it's dogma, but dogma based on historical revelation.
WHY DO I BOTHER?
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Golffly Member (Idle past 2400 days) Posts: 287 Joined: |
Why is your religion better? You don't think Hindu, Muslims feel the same about theirs. Islam is the fastest growing religion in North America. Don't you think the new converts vetted Christianity with Islam and found Islam better. You are stuck on a uniqueness and specialness which every religion says with as much enthusiasm as you do.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17179 Joined: |
quote: The point is that it is not supportable by evidence and reason. It has to be assumed. Even the idea that it is based on revelation is dogma. If investigation finds that your "HISTORY" is myth and legend - which you dogmatically believe despite the evidence - then what is the point of the claim that Christianity is a religion of "HISTORY" ? What makes it better than any other religion with myths and legends ? quote: Why DON'T you bother to think things through ?
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Faith ![]() Suspended Member (Idle past 763 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Christ died for our sins, so we don't have to go to Hell. Islam and Hinduism and Judaism and Mormonism and Buddhism will all take you straight to Hell because they have no solution to the problem of sin. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : decided to eliminate the irrelevant stuff Edited by Faith, : a bit of mop-up
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Golffly Member (Idle past 2400 days) Posts: 287 Joined: |
Everybody dies. How long was he dead for before he was swinging with the top guys? God knew it would happen so what's the big deal?
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Faith ![]() Suspended Member (Idle past 763 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Well if you're going to eliminate Christ's salvation and reduce Christianity to the level of all the other religions, you're right, it's all the same thing and we're all going to Hell together. Fortunately you're wrong.
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Golffly Member (Idle past 2400 days) Posts: 287 Joined: |
Don't worry Faith nobody is going to hell. They made that shit up.
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Faith ![]() Suspended Member (Idle past 763 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I DID post something a while back Message 1808 that shows that Christianity did not make up Hell, that there are versions of Hell in just about every ancient culture and religion.
They just don't have a way to keep sinners out of Hell. Christianity does. Edited by Faith, : add message link
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PaulK Member Posts: 17179 Joined: |
Faith, are you seriously claiming that Islam and Buddhism teach that everyone will end up in Hell ? Or are you just claiming that they can't keep people out of Hell because they aren't Christianity ? And if neither of those, just what are you saying ?
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Faith ![]() Suspended Member (Idle past 763 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I'm saying they all have a concept of Hell which is a place for the wicked in the afterlife. No, they don't think everybody is going there because they have no appreciation of the Fall and the depths of human sin. They think you can stay out of Hell by being "good" but the Bible makes it clear that nobody is good enough to stay out of Hell (though it does indicate that there are degrees of Hell so not everybody would be down at the bottom level with the Really Bad Guys, whoever they are, we probably don't have a good idea of that). Islam actually thinks suicide bombers are going to their version of heaven or Paradise, maybe the craziest deception anybody ever dreamed up. They think it's good to lie for their faith too. So if you believe that, you can go to their "heaven" with them.
Meanwhile the Bible gives us the Law, nicely condensed in the Ten Commandments, so that we can know that any violation of same, from lying to adultery to covetousness to stealing to dishonoring parents, earns us a place in Hell. Which is where we'd all go if Jesus hadn't come to save us from it, as promised all through the Old Testament. But of course if you've so destroyed the integrity of the Bible that none of this survives you're up a creek with all the others. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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