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ramoss
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Message 31 of 50 (699218)
05-15-2013 8:13 PM


What I find ironic with all this republican frothing at the mouth about Benghazi, they are the ones that, in 2011 and 2012, cut funding for embassy security
Republicans slashed diplomatic security budget, still trying to cut more

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Message 32 of 50 (699219)
05-15-2013 8:53 PM
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05-15-2013 8:13 PM


ramoss writes:
What I find ironic with all this republican frothing at the mouth about Benghazi, they are the ones that, in 2011 and 2012, cut funding for embassy security
The GOP is an irony deficient zone.
Remember when Obama offered entitlement budget cuts? And GOP reps condemned his unfeeling slashing of aged throats? And then the mighty Paul Ryan said it didn't slash enough throats?
Or how the GOP demanded a Senate budget, got one, and then blocked any attempt at budget reconciliation committee work between the two chambers (because it would reveal how many aged throats they want to cut)?
You can't say, though, sir, that they at long last have no decency left.
It's been a long time.

"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads."

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Dr Adequate
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Message 33 of 50 (699947)
05-28-2013 4:20 PM


Now At Last We Know

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Message 34 of 50 (699950)
05-28-2013 4:43 PM
Reply to: Message 33 by Dr Adequate
05-28-2013 4:20 PM


Re: Now At Last We Know
Apparently, that's how they roll in Illinois:
quote:
A southwestern Illinois judge already under scrutiny after a colleague died of a cocaine overdose at his family's hunting lodge was charged Friday with possession of heroin and guns.
Illinois judge charged with heroin, gun possession

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Message 35 of 50 (700105)
05-30-2013 11:27 AM
Reply to: Message 17 by dronestar
05-14-2013 1:38 PM


whoaaa, calm down cowboy.
It's probably because Panda's don't have much sex.
- Oni

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Message 36 of 50 (700107)
05-30-2013 11:37 AM
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05-30-2013 11:27 AM


Oni writes:
It's probably because Panda's don't have much sex.
Panda is an enigma to me. One second, he'll scorn my hyperbolic-ass to hell. The next second he will cheer one of my posts.

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Message 37 of 50 (700125)
05-30-2013 2:00 PM
Reply to: Message 36 by dronestar
05-30-2013 11:37 AM


Re:
dronester writes:
Panda is an enigma to me. One second, he'll scorn my hyperbolic-ass to hell. The next second he will cheer one of my posts.
It is because I judge your posts on their actual content and not just on your posting history.
Edited by Panda, : No reason given.

"There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane

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Message 38 of 50 (700126)
05-30-2013 2:05 PM
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05-30-2013 11:27 AM


onifre writes:
It's probably because Panda's don't have much sex.
I get plenty of sex!
And sometimes with another person.

"There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane

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dronestar
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Message 39 of 50 (701734)
06-25-2013 12:17 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by Dr Adequate
05-14-2013 11:46 AM


Drone writes:
Personally, this 'coverup' is not even close to the many more horrific things critics of Obama can present. Am I missing something?
DA writes:
Yeah, you've got to wonder how the Republicans choose the things they're going to pretend to be outraged about.
Well, Dr A, I am still wondering how the Republicans choose the things they are outraged about. Why do they pick minor items while letting big whoppers pass:
1. Although Obama (a supposed professor of Constitutional Law) has sworn to preserve, protect, and defend the constitution, he has continually attacked the Constitution; 4th Amendment against search and seizure (NSA domestic spying); 5th Amendment guaranteeing due process; 8th Amendment barring cruel and unusual punishment (Manning Episode), 6th Amendment, assuring trial by jury (drone assassination program). [sheesh, I thought Bush Jr. was bad]
2. The latest Obama secrecy initiative, The Insider Threat Program: it warns employees of non-defense Social Security Amin, Agriculture Dept, etc) that leaks to the media will be treated like espionage.
3. The Obama Administration has aggressively gone after more whistle-blowers than all administrations before it. But in actuality, the whistle-blowers ARE American and humanity's heroes, not traitors.
If the republicans are really for a smaller, leaner government, less intrusive government, the above items would seem like easy choices to attack the president.
Why not?
Coyote?
Faith?
Bueller?
Ghost of Buzzsaw?

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Message 40 of 50 (701742)
06-25-2013 1:45 PM
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06-25-2013 12:17 PM


Dronester writes:
But in actuality, the whistle-blowers ARE American and humanity's heroes, not traitors.
I really was expecting you to give your 2 cents in my Treason thread, Message 1....

- xongsmith, 5.7d

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dronestar
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Message 41 of 50 (701746)
06-25-2013 2:06 PM
Reply to: Message 40 by xongsmith
06-25-2013 1:45 PM


Hi Xongsmith,
I liked and cheered Rhavins brief message in your thread. Message 5:
Rahvin writes:
And I would agree that those who reveal secret wrongdoing are in fact patriots of the highest order, and we need brave people of that ilk to keep our societies honest. Neither Bradley Manning nor Snowden appear to be even remotely guilty of "treason" despite what several authorities say.
So why don't the Repubs label Obama an enemy of the constitution?
Spoiler alert, here's a doozy that may cause you to vomit:
quote:
On March 30, 2007, Obama stated, "I was a constitutional law professor, which means unlike the current president [George W. Bush] I actually respect the Constitution."

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1.61803
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Message 42 of 50 (701893)
06-27-2013 1:07 PM
Reply to: Message 39 by dronestar
06-25-2013 12:17 PM


dronestar writes:
If the republicans are really for a smaller, leaner government, less intrusive government, the above items would seem like easy choices to attack the president.
The repubs are not for smaller, leaner government, less intrusive govt. They are for Drill baby drill, kill unions, kill abortion, disenfranchise minority votes, spy baby spy, wage war on terror, build a wall on the border and round up all immigrants. Did I miss anything?

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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Message 43 of 50 (701900)
06-27-2013 1:41 PM
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06-27-2013 1:07 PM


1.61803 writes:
The repubs are not for smaller, leaner government, less intrusive govt. They are for Drill baby drill, kill unions, kill abortion, disenfranchise minority votes, spy baby spy, wage war on terror, build a wall on the border and round up all immigrants. Did I miss anything?
The Repubs (along with the democrats) CAN continue to be for those things and keep getting defeated in future elections when the minority voters become ever bigger.
But if they REALLY want to stay in power, it would seem championing for the amendments and attacking Obama on his anti-constitutional playbook would play well to ALL voters. (Not just the gun-nut crowd.)
I know I am somehow wrong with this kind of thinking. It seems to make too much sense. Still hoping a republican voter can spell it out for me . . .
Coyote?
Faith?
Bueller?
Ghost of Buzzsaw?
Bueller?
Bueller?

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Message 44 of 50 (701910)
06-27-2013 2:58 PM
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06-27-2013 1:41 PM


I know I am somehow wrong with this kind of thinking. It seems to make too much sense. Still hoping a republican voter can spell it out for me . . .
Coyote?
I'm libertarian. Not the same thing at all.

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dronestar
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Message 45 of 50 (701912)
06-27-2013 3:16 PM
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06-27-2013 2:58 PM


Coyote writes:
I'm libertarian. Not the same thing at all.
quote:
Libertarians advocate a society with a greatly reduced state or no state at all.
Libertarianism - Wikipedia
I'm not in the ball park? . . . So you wouldn't be inclined to vote for a political party that strives for a lesser intrusive government? Thus . . . If the republican party attacked Obama because Obama has demonstrated that he hates the constitution and especially the 4th amendment search and seizure laws, then you still wouldn't be more inclined to vote for the Republicans?
Please clarify.

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