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Tangle
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Message 106 of 152 (696870)
04-19-2013 11:48 AM
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04-19-2013 11:35 AM


It's now an episode of 24.

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android

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Message 107 of 152 (696890)
04-19-2013 1:10 PM
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04-19-2013 11:35 AM


Dr A writes:
Yeah, looks like I was wrong about everything. It happens.
But..that means..(lip trembles)..that I could be...(shiver)...wrong..too.
(**Straggler's entire world implodes**)

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Phat
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Message 108 of 152 (696895)
04-19-2013 1:32 PM
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04-19-2013 11:48 AM


Latest News
NPR Reports
And of course Alex Jones the king conspiracy theorist already thinks the government planned this whole charade...which i dismiss since Alex makes money off his own gossip.
By and large I trust the news media, though I usually view a variety of sources and am unafraid to question.
Phat As A Christian? Yes, I still believe that there is a spiritual war of sorts being fought with and between cultures...
The issue there is whether humans should accept and trust their own intellects exclusively as the best moral ethical and societal path for them and others or whether they are sane in believing in someone greater than themselves whom we can trust and love.
Critics would of course say that religious thinking is delusional and often causes the precise rebellions against society such as this Boston incident.... I will say that I have no ill will or hatred towards any group of humans although I feel that we all can say our battle (if not spiritual) is against "stinkin thinkin". Right, Tangle?

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Dr Adequate
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Message 109 of 152 (696900)
04-19-2013 1:42 PM
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04-19-2013 1:10 PM


But..that means..(lip trembles)..that I could be...(shiver)...wrong..too.
(**Straggler's entire world implodes**)
* holds Straggler * (No homo.)
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

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Dogmafood
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Message 110 of 152 (696918)
04-19-2013 2:26 PM


Lock down
I am curious what you guys think about the general lock down of such a large area. Seems a little drastic.
Is it sort of voluntary but not entirely?

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Phat
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Message 111 of 152 (696920)
04-19-2013 2:29 PM
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04-19-2013 2:26 PM


Re: Lock down
it seems to encourage terrorism, in my opinion. The way "they" can beat us is by bankrupting us....so much spent for one or two men. Its like spending a trillion to "get" Bin Ladin....utterly illogical, IMHO

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Dr Adequate
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Message 112 of 152 (696921)
04-19-2013 2:31 PM
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04-19-2013 2:26 PM


Re: Lock down
I am curious what you guys think about the general lock down of such a large area. Seems a little drastic.
Is it sort of voluntary but not entirely?
If a lock-down was voluntary then the bomber could say: "No, I don't consent to this, it's just not my cup of tea" and walk past the policemen.

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Dogmafood
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Message 113 of 152 (696922)
04-19-2013 2:35 PM
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04-19-2013 2:31 PM


Re: Lock down
So it is essentially a state of martial law?

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Dr Adequate
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Message 114 of 152 (696923)
04-19-2013 2:38 PM
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04-19-2013 2:29 PM


Re: Lock down
it seems to encourage terrorism, in my opinion.
By catching the terrorists. Whereas is would completely discourage them if we let them do whatever they like. Of course, why didn't I see that?

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Phat
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Message 115 of 152 (696924)
04-19-2013 2:38 PM
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04-19-2013 2:31 PM


Re: Lock down
Somewhere I read that the contrast between the US and most of our ideological adversaries in general is that while we highly value human life, we are unafraid to throw money at a problem. We would never wish to lose even 1-or 2 soldiers lives, but we can build a multi million drone.
The adversary, OTOH, places less value on sacrifice of human life and is unable(or unwilling) to spend large amounts of money to fight us.
In essence its about our money versus their people.
Our people seem to want their money(resources, etc) while their people want a bit more of our money and a bit less war.
Perhaps i am speaking in over generalizations, here....but I think that this cultural war could be solved by all of us globally fighting the rich. as long, of course, as I don't become poor as a sacrifice in so doing.
Edited by Phat, : No reason given.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 116 of 152 (696925)
04-19-2013 2:39 PM
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04-19-2013 2:35 PM


Re: Lock down
So it is essentially a state of martial law?
No, 'cos that would be something different, such as martial law.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 117 of 152 (696926)
04-19-2013 2:41 PM
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04-19-2013 2:38 PM


Re: Lock down
Somewhere I read that the contrast between the US and most of our ideological adversaries in general is that while we highly value human life, we are unafraid to throw money at a problem. We would never wish to lose even 1-or 2 soldiers lives, but we can build a multi million drone.
The adversary, OTOH, places less value on sacrifice of human life and is unable(or unwilling) to spend large amounts of money to fight us.
In essence its about our money versus their people.
Seems to be working so far.

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Message 118 of 152 (696932)
04-19-2013 3:23 PM
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04-19-2013 2:38 PM


Re: Lock down
What does this have to do with the current state of affairs in MA?

"Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins

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Phat
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Message 119 of 152 (696933)
04-19-2013 3:25 PM
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04-19-2013 2:31 PM


Costs Of Terrorism To Us
On the other hand, we are showing these people that "we"...the majority of us...are unified and will voluntarily unite and do whatever it takes to expose "one of these things is not like the others..."
however what would our society do if we had ten times as many incidents? We couldn't afford to do what is being done in Boston every single time.

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Phat
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Message 120 of 152 (696934)
04-19-2013 3:28 PM
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04-19-2013 3:23 PM


Re: Lock down
What does this have to do with the current state of affairs in MA?
I know, i know...you seem to be defending the right of other cultures to not be labeled as "them" by us. My point is that "us" can be them too if they would only cooperate and not go against our culture and way of life.

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