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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 824 days) Posts: 3193 Joined: |
Are these your words?
we need to look and see if there are perhaps changes we need to make in our behavior as a nation and as a culture. "Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
They are a classic example of the dishonest tactics of "quote mining", misrepresentation and taking things out of context. A perfect trifecta.
The quote in full said "But once we learn if there is a message or what the reasons were, we need to look and see if there are perhaps changes we need to make in our behavior as a nation and as a culture." and can be found in Message 86. Please point out in the full quote where I say that we should change anything because there was a bomb? I try to make sure that what I write stays at around the fifth or sixth grade comprehension level. Maybe that is too high.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 824 days) Posts: 3193 Joined: |
Please point out in the full quote where I say that we should change anything because there was a bomb? Is that not what this entire thread is about? A fucking BOMB that exploded in Boston? Are you really trying to be so pendantic as to separate the issues? You are now saying we should change our culture based on their motive (the motive for BOMBing a building), but it has nothing to do with a BOMB?
Please point out in the full quote where I say that we should change anything because there was a bomb? I really have no idea why I even bothered to enter into discussion with you. I should have known better. Edited by hooah212002, : No reason given."Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
More bullshit.
The quote in full said "But once we learn if there is a message or what the reasons were, we need to look and see if there are perhaps changes we need to make in our behavior as a nation and as a culture." and can be found in Message 86. Maybe it is long before your time but this is not the first instance of bombings in the US. Not too long ago there were people bombing churches and people burning down their own neighborhoods and towns. The time was horrendous and it seemed that the US had gone mad. But Americans looked at the school and church bombings, looked at the reasons they happened. Americans looked at the burning cities, the burning neighborhoods, looked at the reasons they happened. And Americans realized that some of their behavior, some of their culture, some of their behaviors were contributing causes of the bombings and riots and burnings and began making positive changes.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 824 days) Posts: 3193 Joined:
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More bullshit. And Americans realized that some of their behavior, some of their culture, some of their behaviors were contributing causes of the bombings and riots and burnings and began making positive changes. Are you ill? You have just now admitted that you DID say what you have spent the last 4 messages denying you said. What, exactly, did I say that was "bullshit"? Now that you admit to saying what you denied saying: why should you or I change our behavior due to someone bombing stuff? How does the way I live cause someone to bomb something? OR (and you culd have clarified long ago) Do you mean that we, as a society, need to change how we deal with people that struggle with mental health issues? If the former, I heartily disagree and think you know better than to use the sin argument (people set bombs off because of violence and nudity and sex on TV and because society is "fallen") If the latter, then I agree. Either way, stop being a trite dickhead and make clear what you are trying to say. Edited by hooah212002, : No reason given."Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Sorry but even in what you quoted where do I say that we should change our behavior because of a bombing?
It is not the bomb we should be guided by but rather an examination of our behavior.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 824 days) Posts: 3193 Joined: |
Sorry but even in what you quoted where do I say that we should change our behavior because of a bombing? Then why are you bringing it up here? This thread is about a couple bombs that went off in Boston. i am sure you can see why I made the "mistake" of thinking you were talking about the subject matter. I shall never again accuse you of actually being on topic (that is, of course, if I make it out of this conversation with any amount of sanity).
It is not the bomb we should be guided by but rather an examination of our behavior. Ok, let's break this down Barney style: what behavior? Next: why do we need to examine it? Who is included in "our"? What causes us to need to examine it? If you cannot answer these questions, please don't bother responding."Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
I have answered those questions.
quote: From Message 28 quote: from Message 36 quote: from Message 44 quote: from Message 48 quote: from Message 86 and most recently:
quote: from Message 94 What we need to examine will be based on what the reason was for the behavior and no one knows that yet. As I said, the bombings, burning and riots caused us to reexamine our behavior. We realized that some of our behavior, our culture, or society, our politics, our education needed changing. Right now we have no idea why the bombings took place. Once we learn that then we should examine our behavior, our society, our culture, our politics our education and see if there are things we should change.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 824 days) Posts: 3193 Joined:
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So your idea of clarifying your point is to just requote all of your posts in this thread in their entirety? Here's a hint: if I didn't quite catch it the first time your typed it, what makes you think I will if you just put it all in one place?
You aren't being clear. I am asking you for clarification. Do you, or do you not, care about actually communicating? Or do you just want to posture?"Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins
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Panda Member (Idle past 3735 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined:
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"Hooah" writes: So your idea of clarifying your point is to just requote all of your posts in this thread in their entirety?"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." "There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane
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Tangle Member Posts: 9504 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.8 |
Looks like the 1 guy x 2 bombs hypothesis is dead.
I suppose that must increase the chances of this being terrorism.Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android
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Phat Member Posts: 18310 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1
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I guess that most of you dont know jar the way that I do, and he will even cause me to reframe my assessment. But I think I know what he is implying....and, by the way, hooah...you will never get jar to answer your questions. All you can hope to do is ask better questions yourself for him to comment on. If any one of us gets to frame the issue, jar will rarely go along...he will continue asking questions and reframe the issue the way that he sees fit.
That being said,and, correct me jar if i am wrong...... Essentially, the bombings in Boston may have been done as a statement and way to get the attention of society in order to cause us(society) to re examine our behavior against other people in this world. We are not called to change our way of life...installing cameras at every corner of America, for example...or carrying more guns or not carrying more guns....but we are called to examine the way that our culture (and/or sub culture) gets along with other cultures and with society at large. Hypothetically...the perpetrator of this attack may be in your mind quite sane and has as an agenda a demand for greater societal examination and/or renunciation of behavior. Am I getting you right?
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
No, you don't have it quite right but you are getting close.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 306 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Looks like the 1 guy x 2 bombs hypothesis is dead. I suppose that must increase the chances of this being terrorism. Yeah, looks like I was wrong about everything. It happens.
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