North Korea there will be blood?

Why do you think that China would not intervene?North Korea as a nation is not poor. It has the resources to do almost anything it wants to do. Why?

Look at what they do to their youth:

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A North Korean teacher holds open a children's pop-up book, which depicts a U.S. soldier killing a Korean woman with a hatchet, in a library room at Kaeson Kindergarten in central Pyongyang on March 9, 2013. For North Koreans, the systematic indoctrination of anti-Americanism starts as early as kindergarten. (David Guttenfelder/AP Photo)

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In addition, they threaten the people of S.Korea, who are part of the global community and who deserve protection, if for no other reason than K-Pop.

Sorry but those are both simply insufficient reasons for the US to do anything militarily or to deny North Korea's rights to self defense.We may not like their propaganda but that is no justification for US intervention.

DEFENSE,yes. I agree. But I guarantee that our involvement will come about as a result of N.Koreas OFFENSE, which they have no right asserting against S.Korea or any of our bases. N.Korea may have a right to its existence, but no more so than does S.Korea.

However what you posted was an example of US propaganda and had nothing to do with North Korea invading South Korea.Go back and look at what you wrote in Message 47.Again, follow things through.If we are going to prevent the use of weapons then it has to be done BEFORE the use of those weapons.If North Korea has not invaded South Korea or used the weapons against South Korea then what is the justification for any US Military action directly against North Korea?

Didn't the Bush regime use "imminent threat" as a reason for going to war with Iraq? With a major military exercise (including long range stealth bombers hitting close to her borders) can't North Korea see an "imminent threat"? After all it was military exercises that North Korea used as a cover for their invasion into the south half a century ago. Why can't they prepare to defend themselves from this imminent threat and use all sorts of sabre rattling as a warning (as a number of countries do in similar circumstances?Of course, I may think they are just totally nuts but that doesn't mean they might not have very sane reasons for their actions. The US is overwhelmingly the world's most powerful military. They have demonstrated over and over that they will use that power if it is in the interests perceived by them. Those interests have never been clearly based on altruistic motives that I can see.The various US administrations have made it very clear that they don't like North Korea so the US represents an clear and present danger to North Korea.

Yes, the first stage of a bank robbery is the easy part; walk in and say, "Stick 'em up!"Making it profitable in the long term is the hard part.Historically, the US has been too eager to rush in without an exit strategy. This doesn't seem like a good opportunity to continue that tradition.

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The one issue that we have insisted on from the North Koreans is denuclearization. We are not prepared to accept North Korea into the club of nuclear nations. Now the North Koreans have made that pretty clear ... that they expect to be accepted into that club plus they want to get all the other benefits .... The trouble with the North Koreans is that you put something on the table because they say it's important to them and then finally when they get it, they don't seem to be interested in it anymore.

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- Christopher Hill, the dean of the Joseph Korbel School of International StudiesAs many resources as we are investing in this situation, its wont simply go away at this point.

Josef not Joseph.And what does any of that have to do with either reality or the topic?

There is no justification, and i think that the United States is acting responsibly diplomatically.China is speaking out against its ally, as well.

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China has added its voice to the growing tensions in the Korean peninsula, saying no country should cause global chaos after the US postponed a missile test to ease war fears.

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Xi Jinping, the president of China, North Korea's financial and diplomatic backer, issued the veiled rebuke of its ally on Sunday after repeated threats from the North of a nuclear strike against the United States and South Korea and joint military training exercises between Pyongyang's two enemies.

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"No one should be allowed to throw a region, or even the whole world, into chaos for selfish gains," Xi told a forum on the southern island of Hainan, without naming any specific country.

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Nearly everyone agrees that N.Korea is the one initiating conflict and acting irresponsibly. It remains to be seen who throws the first gauntlet, and if China gives us tacit approval for a limited response, I think we have the responsibility to put the little un in his place. Of course, diplomatically China wins either way.

Yes, of course there can be sufficient justification. For example when one nation invades another nation there can be justification for the invaded nation to resist and to even request help from other nations.But China is certainly more diplomatic than the US and very much more sophisticated.Read your quote from Xi Jinping again. It could equally apply to the US who has stationed troops and weapons on North Korea's border.

Hi NoNukes, Heh, not a surprising answer coming from the monkier NONUKES. I agree, the US has non nuclear munitions that could raise N.Korea to rubble.If N. Korea launched one of their long range rockets into the sea without a war head. I predict the US and UN condemn it once again and maintain sanctions already in place. And hopefully the N.Korean leader will see we wont be provoked into a war nor will we concede on sanctions.If N. Korea launches a missle armed into any US installation then they will have us "cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war."They know that, they may be crazy but they are not stupid.
I believe they will take a gamble and use this as a excuse to conduct more needed weapons test in developing their nuclear program. Sooner or later the world will have to deal with this impending reality that N.Korea will eventually obtain a long range nuclear weapon.

They are mostly all bark and no bite, but it is only a matter of time. We need to defang them before we get bit.

I completely agree.The problem is: how can it be done with a minimum (ideally none at all) loss of human life?

Hi Phat, I think it is to late to "defang" North Korea. That opportunity passed us by back in the 1950s.
The people of North Korea are so propagandized and live in such a state that it will be nearly impossible to subdue that country short of a all out offensive.
History has shown such a population will not easily be subdued.
Look at what happened at Okinawa Japan when the US invaded.
The entire country is committed to one giant defensive weapon with hardened defensive positions throughout the interior.
If US tanks rolled into North Korea, I can see it only after a tremendous joint air and naval campaign. Think Shock and Awe.
Once the country was subdued we would have the same problems we had in Iraq. Insurgency, etc.. Nation building is expensive.None of which the US can afford with the current situation of our governments debts and weakened economy.
This is probably exactly what China is hoping for, the US bankrupt due to our own fecklessness.
Lets hope this blows over eh?