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Author Topic:   Belief in God is scientific.
divermike1974
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Message 1 of 262 (695118)
04-03-2013 3:57 AM


My brain is a stand alone version of the most complex thing in the known universe. It is one of billions that make up humanity. Humanity more or less classes the brain as a computer, and lots of these computers independently and through a myriad of experiences called life come to the conclusion that there is a God. More people - brains - computers come to the answer 'God' than those that come to the answer 'no God'.
My question is why isn't the human belief in God classed as scientific? When the most powerful computer network in the known universe comes to the answer 'God'?
To me it seems that science is flawed, scientists more or less discount there own existence, proffering only to have eyes and a calculator with which to make answers and not using the full power of thought.
I know i sound maybe a little troll like but that is not my intention. Also i am not sure where this should go?
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divermike1974
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Message 15 of 262 (695149)
04-03-2013 2:18 PM


Well it seems that some of you have a problem with my stand alone brain/computer. How is calling the brain the most complex thing in the KNOWN universe an un evidenced assertion? If you can show me another thing in the known universe that can sit alongside cognitive thought and consciousness at the pivotal point between quantum mechanics and relativity as the working of the human body and brain do then your going to be very famous indeed.

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Message 17 of 262 (695152)
04-03-2013 2:36 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Capt Stormfield
04-03-2013 9:38 AM


Billions of people don't do astrology, but billions of people do belief in God. If everyone on the planet did astrology charting then of course it would become scientific because it would be shown by the whole as not to mean a damn thing.
With regard to your pen and ink analogy. I think the history of the scientific method shows that pen and ink in either the right or wrong hands produces the wrong ideas. Can you explain what you mean by wrong hands?

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divermike1974
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Message 19 of 262 (695156)
04-03-2013 2:44 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Dr Adequate
04-03-2013 2:23 PM


That's nice of you to debunk Christianity, but where did i say a single thing about Christianity? Seems like your barking up the wrong tree my canine friend. I said God, i didn't refer to any kind of religion at all.

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Message 20 of 262 (695157)
04-03-2013 2:54 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by PaulK
04-03-2013 9:11 AM


Belief in some sort of God is based much more on tradition than experience.
How much more Paul? Being a scientific man i don't think you would of just assumed that? You must be memory quoting from a United Nations survey or something similar you have read?

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Message 21 of 262 (695159)
04-03-2013 3:06 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by Tangle
04-03-2013 10:18 AM


Name somthing that is more complex than a chimp that comes not from this Earth, and please don't give a simpletons answer like ' the Mandelbrot set'. And please please don't even think about any of the cosmic phenomenon, any of them are like single cell amoebas compared to monkeys.

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Message 24 of 262 (695162)
04-03-2013 3:14 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by Dr Adequate
04-03-2013 2:41 PM


Billions of people not winning the lottery or finding love in response to their astrological readings would then through common sense stop them doing it. That equates to an exercise in the scientific method if you ask me.

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Message 28 of 262 (695166)
04-03-2013 3:31 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by Stile
04-03-2013 3:08 PM


Re: Your brain gets too much wrong
I understand where you are coming from, however you are doing the human brain a serious disservice by saying what you do. The sum total of all human activity on this planet has been the result of answers generated in human brains. How can you say it is so untrust worthy? Even the most powerful computers which started life in the human imagination are designed to make billions and billions of calculations to enable them to get the next answer they are tasked to find. The human brain as part of the network of humanity and human history does the same thing.

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Message 29 of 262 (695167)
04-03-2013 3:36 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by Percy
04-03-2013 3:07 PM


Once again Christianity comes up. Where did i mention any religion?

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Message 31 of 262 (695171)
04-03-2013 3:42 PM
Reply to: Message 26 by Dr Adequate
04-03-2013 3:21 PM


But in that case why don't you go start another thread as debunking Christianity has nothing whatsoever to do with this topic, unless of course you are trying to hijack it?

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Message 33 of 262 (695173)
04-03-2013 3:45 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by New Cat's Eye
04-03-2013 3:19 PM


Now you are sounding simple.

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divermike1974
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Message 34 of 262 (695174)
04-03-2013 3:48 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by New Cat's Eye
04-03-2013 3:42 PM


Re: Your brain gets too much wrong
I know it isn't my eyes are.

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divermike1974
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Message 38 of 262 (695178)
04-03-2013 3:57 PM
Reply to: Message 35 by Dr Adequate
04-03-2013 3:51 PM


I didn't say that, i said 'to believe in God' is scientific because more people believe than don't. I didn't reject any minority opinions you did that by bringing Christianity into it which has nothing to do with the original thread whatsoever. If you are confused all you have to do is go back and read it.
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Message 39 of 262 (695179)
04-03-2013 4:01 PM
Reply to: Message 37 by New Cat's Eye
04-03-2013 3:54 PM


Re: Your brain gets too much wrong
'Science' funny word ain't it. Out of the whole known universe only the human mind can use it, let alone say it or even think about it.
i certainly trust my brain more than anything else on this planet. How many mistakes have you made to have such a low opinion of yourself?

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divermike1974
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Message 40 of 262 (695180)
04-03-2013 4:03 PM
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04-03-2013 3:54 PM


Re: Your brain gets too much wrong
'Science' funny word ain't it. Out of the whole known universe only the human mind can use it, let alone say it or even think about it.
i certainly trust my brain more than anything else on this planet. How many mistakes have you made to have such a low opinion of yourself?

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