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Message 32 of 59 (346310)
09-03-2006 10:49 PM

I recently had a similar experience. My sister - who has a BS in Biology and is now a veterinarian - has been born-again for a while, as I knew, but I hadn't really spoken to her about it. Several months ago, she decided to break the ice on the topic, by sending me Hugh Ross's book The Genesis Question as a Christmas present. It's an Old Earth Creationism book, filled with many of the same old creationist canards that we all know and love, minus the young-earth stuff. Hugh Ross is essentially a Day=Age Concordist.
My heart sank a bit. I didn't realize that she was a creationist - in fact, with our background (both parents were PhD biologists, mother went on to become an Episcopal priest - and still accepts evolution) I figured she probably was a theistic evolutionist. Meanwhile, she knew that I am agnostic, but had no idea that I'd had a great interest in the evo-creo debate (and am firmly in the evo camp) for quite a while. With the book, she sent a very nice letter explaining that she wanted to "come out" about her faith and was concerned about my reaction.
I emailed her and assured her that I completely accepted her beliefs and continued to warmly embrace and welcome her. Then I told her about my interests. I told her that I'd be happy to discuss the book, but that I was likely to be very critical of it (in fact I'd already filled the margins with rebuttals). I told her that if we talked about it, I wouldn't get angry, but it would end up as a debate, and I didn't know if she wanted that.
She said that she didn't want to debate, so I dropped it, and so did she. We've had good correspondence since, and she's actually going to be visiting with her family this week. I'll be interested to see if they bring the subject up, although I doubt it. We'll be too busy talking about our kids, I expect.
So, I guess that's all to say that I agree with what NosyNed said - sometimes it's best not to talk about it. But on the other hand, if my sister and/or her husband were to give me a scene like the one you experienced, I would absolutely respond, as calmly and unemotionally as possible. And I would suggest that we continue the discussion over email. As we all know, verbal debate is not the best format for this discussion.

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Member (Idle past 5201 days)
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Message 46 of 59 (346464)
09-04-2006 2:33 PM
Reply to: Message 43 by jar
09-04-2006 12:43 PM

Re: compromise?
My mother was ordained when it was still pretty unusual to see female priests (yes, priests is the usual term for Episcopalians - it's catholic as opposed to protestant, just not Roman Catholic). I remember when people would ask her what they should call her (instead of Father, which is the norm in most male-led congregations), she would say, "call me Kathy." She signs her name with the title "Rev." short for The Reverend.
She's actually a Franciscan sister now, too - complete with celibacy oath (which was optional). Within her order, she's known as "Sister Kathleen Theresa." It gets a bit confusing.
She's got this great picture of the last Pope refusing to shake her hand when she was on a pilgrimage in Italy. She had the gall to show up for the audience (with a lot of male priests, who did get handshake pictures) wearing her collar.
Edited by Belfry, : No reason given.

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