Who Made God?

No Phat, you know that is simply not true.What you are describing are what YOU believe. If you were a Muslim you would believe that Jesus was a Prophet of Allah. If you were Jewish you would believe that God had no sons and that Jesus was simply a failed Messiah. How would I know I had met God and not the Great Deceiver? How do you know it is not a fantasy?AbE: but back to the topic. (Who started the topic and did the OP want any answer other than the one he wanted?)The evidence still stands.The God in Genesis 1 is described as a totally different God than the one in Genesis 2&3 and both of them would deny what you market is the real God.What does the evidence show?Edited by jar, : see AbE:

And that the Jesus of the christian new testament stories does not exist at all in the rabbinical literature.

Can one be a man who embraces logic, reason and reality but also meets God?If not, why not?
-Does God hate logic?
-Is God unreasonable?
-Is God not a part of reality? If it's is "no fantasy" as you say... .then you will not surrender logic, reason, and reality for a fantasy either.
Why would you expect others to do something you yourself were not willing to do?

Hubris.

Yeah right - that’s how it might read to a five year-old ignoramus who doesn’t understand that and became man in the Nicene Creed refers to the doctrine of the Incarnation and whose underdeveloped mind doesn’t understand that God cannot stop being God and become just a man.Btw, if Jesus was just a man when he was on the earth, how do you explain the following verse? We are not stoning you because of any good work but for blasphemy, but because you, a mere man, claim to be God. (John 10:33)

You are an offensive idiot.

My understanding is that the Pharisees were the Messianic sect. There was a great number of Messiahs coming forth, even more that the fake Dmitris (in Russia, fakers posing as Ivan the Terrible's dead son, Dmitri, which were many and very troublesome), so it was up to the Pharisees to check out each and every one of the new Messiahs, especially since a true Messiah's claim would directly conflict with the occupying Roman forces. Quite rightly, any claim of being the Messiah would have to be checked out by the Pharisees.By my understanding, after the Diaspora c. 70 CE the Rabbinic tradition was predominantly Pharisaic. Since that opposed (or at the very least did not agree with) nascent Christianity, that made the Pharisees the bad guys in early Christianity.So then, no, the Jesus of the New Testament should not be expected to exist in rabbinical literature. And one of their favorites, Josephus, did not mention Jesus in the original, but rather in an insertion in Old Church Slavonic (which is to Russian as Latin is to the Romance languages).

Said by the self-admitted extremely low-level idiot with a self-admitted IQ approaching single digits.

Probably not, but I will think about how I would apply such a logic challenge.Edited by Thugpreacha, : No reason given.

Easy to explain. The author of John asserts that Jesus claimed to be God. Blasphemy was a capital offense.Yet it is still what is written in the Nicene Creed and has been included in every version since 325.

which leads to the question regarding whether the Nicene Creed should be given more authoritative weight than the Bible.

No, it simply points out that we should be honest about what has actually been written and admit that there are contradictions, evolution of tales and that each writing simply reflects the God the authors created.

So in essence you belong to a club that sings songs and celebrates characters in a book? Belief in GOD is not required? Or more precisely not clearly understood...centuries after the BCP was written? I think people are regressing. Soon they will believe that God is simply a human concept. You can call it a Christian Club but if it devolves any further it will simply be a humanist club of do-gooders dressed up with ceremonial religious garb.

No, nor has anything I have said implied such. GOD is totally irrelevant to this discussion and topic.

You're an optimist.