Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona
"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed. Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
You call it word salad because you are not a believer. Your brain is not wired to take leaps of faith.
What you describe Phat is not a matter of belief but of willful ignorance, being unwilling to actually examine the words in the context of reality, that which can be tested.
I am a believer yet I too see it as word salad and almost as dishonest as the Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancy.
You call it word salad because you are not a believer. Your brain is not wired to take leaps of faith. Thus to you, I may as well be saying ’Twas brillig, and the slithy toves Did gyre and gimble in the wabe: All mimsy were the borogoves, And the mome raths outgrabe.
You're shooting yourself in the foot. Jabberwocky is nonsense to everybody. Nobody believes it's "true". Nobody's brain is wired to believe it.
All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
One thing we believe, and that is that the arbitrator is most certainly not human.
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity. In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.~Stile
I understand your position but would comment that your willingness to eternally (if you end up being eternal) ask questions prevents you from having to decide on an answer. You can conveniently browse the showroom without deciding to buy any of the products. Which most honestly makes you an eternal agnostic.(Thus far) So this nonsense that you claim to be a believer only fits within the bylaws of your club. The Chicago Statement assumes a lot of belief, so I can see why you question it, but to judge it places you as your own God. You claim that you would likely laugh in the face of the "God of Calvinism" but more likely you would be on your face....either voluntarily or mandatorily. Then what?
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity. In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.~Stile
Arbitrator: an independent person or body officially appointed to settle a dispute. adjudicator arbiter judge umpire referee assistant referee linesman line judge mediator conciliator intervenor intercessor go-between negotiator peacemaker
Jesus is the mediator. he arbitrator. Your exaggerated claims of His non-existence mean little. You have anything else today, Theo?
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity. In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.~Stile
The Chicago Statement assumes a lot of belief, so I can see why you question it, but to judge it places you as your own God.
How does my utter derision related to the total dishonesty and willful disconnection from all reality that is the Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancy place me as any God?
Phat writes:
You claim that you would likely laugh in the face of the "God of Calvinism" but more likely you would be on your face....either voluntarily or mandatorily.
Are you saying that the duty of a Christian is to just give in to a despot and tyrant just because the tyrant is more powerful?
No, I say that I would oppose such an evil creation. As a Christian I believe I have the duty to Fight the GOOD fight, to run the race. I would almost certainly lose but as a Christian that is still my duty.
Technically Jesus, as Mediator, is lso in the role of Creator since "through Him all things were created". Its challenging for me to have as honest an argument as possible while holding on to the dogma which I dont question. Jesus is Gods character to me. Thus, the Creator of all seen and unseen is essentially repped through a Man.
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity. In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.~Stile
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