Who Made God?

You mean a War with the US being opposed by Every Other Nation on Earth?That is certainly a possibility.How do you think that would end for the US?AbE:Phat, what other nations have nuclear stockpiles?Phat, what is the most likely delivery method for a nuclear device?Phat, are there other threats than nuclear devices?Phat, what are the delivery methods for those other threats?Phat, which is more likely to be a deterrent to Iranian aggression; threatening total destruction or becoming the single largest consumer for Iranian oil?Edited by jar, : see AbE;

I was born into a Christian Family, raised as a Christian, Baptized in the Rite of Baptism, Confirmed in the Rite of Confirmation, educated in a Christian School and a registered member of a recognized Christian Denomination.Sorry Charlie; you may not like it but the Fact is that I am a Christian.

Nothing there but word salad Phat; you argue for a position totally divorced from reality that has no meaning. When you can explain how a communion between God and man is possible or even what that means, then perhaps you might have something other than fantasy. Again, you argue for a position totally divorced from reality.What is actually written in the story!Edited by jar, : clear sig

Again, what I post related to being a Christian is actually based in reality and testable and verifiable.And you still have not presented a model, method, mechanism, process or procedure to test whether Jesus is alive today or even explained what the hell that even means.

My beliefs are, surprisingly my beliefs and have been outlined at EvC in detail.But the fact remains that I am a registered member of a recognized Christian denomination and thus a Christian.

That's Dante's Inferno Phat. In the Bible Lucifer (aka Satan) is God's servant and tester; even throughout the New Testament.And exactly what can be gained by parking one's brain at the door?Were we given brains so we could willfully refuse to use them?But I was under the impression that the topic is "Who made God?" and so what does the evidence show?Why is the God described in Genesis 1 entirely different than the God described in Genesis 2 & 3?Why is your God any different than Ganesha or Thor or Ra or Jupiter or Raven or Coyote?What does the evidence show?AbE: and surrender to what Phat? It appears that the only surrendering is surrendering your ability to think and question the dogma and surrendering to what the Snake-Oil Salesman tell you the Bible really says rather than what is actually written.Edited by jar, : see AbE:

No Phat; I am honest enough to understand that what I believe is not evidence of fact beyond the fact that I believe.Should we not be honest? So your only response is that it is the God you have made up and not the God someone else made up.I understand.

Did you not say "Because I believe in Him and follow Him. I do not believe any of those other ones nor do I follow them. My God is uniquely my God."How is your belief any different than those of someone who follows Coyote or Raven or Thor or Ra or Ganesha or ...Isn't the only difference what YOU choose to believe?

And rightly challenged.

Yet that is exactly what is affirmed in the Nicene Creed. Beginning with the original version formulated in 325 AD which said "Who for us men, and for our salvation, came down and was incarnate and was made man;" and continuing throughout Christian history to the current version which is: The various authors of the New Testament stories made quite a few claims.But again, the notion of Jesus as something other than just man while alive on earth simply denigrates and diminshes any value to his life.I simply honestly support the basics of the Christian faith and kinda laugh at the fumbling of the current CCoI.

Yet that is what the Nicene Creed says.

And yet again, how can you tell the Holy Spirit from a Bad Burrito?The question still remains?Many folk claim that I do not have something yet never explain how to determine if such a thing even exists.So what is the test to determine if you have "The Holy Spirit" and what does it mean "to have the Holy Spirit"?Edited by jar, : appallin spallin is ---> if

The "Not perfect but forgiven" card sells well.What can be seen and what can be tested is behavior.When someone explains how to Test "Jesus is alive" or "born again" or "have you been saved" or "touched by the Holy Spirit" they may someday rise to the level of behavior.

Again though, you do not even present any subjective evidence or any description of how to identify the Holy Spirit or differentiate between the Holy Spirit and some entity claiming to be the Holy Spirit.No one doubts that you believe what you claim to believe just as I don't doubt the Dredge believes what he claims to believe but everyone can read and verify what is in the Nicene Creed and in each variation, permutation and iteration since 325 CE.Each individual can actually read what is written in Genesis 2 & 3.Each individual can actually go to the Bible and look at each version of the Road to Damascus story or the Great Commission and see how the versions evolve and change as they are modified in every retelling.Everyone can actually read the Flood stories in Genesis 6 & 7 to compare them and list the differences and in incompatibilities.Everyone can read the description of the God character in Genesis 1 vs the God character in Genesis 2 & 3.Everyone can read Genesis 2 & 3 and see that the serpent told the truth, the God character did not and the God character punished Adam & Eve even though the God character specifically denied them the capability even know who to obey.Beliefs exist.But unless there is some way to test the beliefs they remain simply personal beliefs.There are and have been many, many, many, many, many verifiable examples of Gods. Each God has had a core of believers.Most of the Gods, just as when looking at the descriptions of God found in the Bible stories, are mutually exclusive. The God found in Genesis 1 is entirely different, a polar opposite of the God in Genesis 2 & 3.So back to the question of "Who Made God" all of the evidence shows that Man made God.

That is not even word salad Phat. Not only does it have absolutely no meaning it requires an impossibility. We have no way to even surrendr reasoning other then a conscious decision to simply not think and even that requires reasoning.Stop just posting utter nonsense. And no one ever provides an answer. Is there a God character in Genesis 1?Is there a God Character in Genesis 2&3?And are there not literally thousands of different God characters in the books?I simply point out what is actually there Phat.And the evidence, all of the evidence ever presented answers the question "Who Made God" with "Man Made God!"