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RAZD Member (Idle past 1425 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
The current thread, Gun Control Again, has -imho- reached it's inevitable end with people talking past each other and reiterating their positions. Nothing new, and it is probably time to close that thread.
I'd like to shift the focus to ways to regulate guns:
For the sake of argument on this thread, it is taken as given that fewer unregulated guns in the hands of fewer untrained people will result in fewer deaths (accidental and intentional), so the purpose is to achieve that end.
Gun deaths, including mass murder rampages, will still occur even with very strict regulations.
But regulations do reduce the overall incidence of these deaths, and that is the goal. So what are your proposals for gun regulation? Enjoy.
(1) - "gun club militias" would be all those groups that do not fit the constitional definition of militia -- ie as detailed here: http://congressionalconstitutioncaucus-garr.../...nstitution
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Thread copied here from the How can we regulate guns ... ? thread in the Proposed New Topics forum.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1425 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Pass a federal regulation that all gun owners must be licensed by each state, with photo ID, fingerprints and a DNA sample, and documentation that they have been trained in proper gun use, with separate training document for every gun owned.
Records to be kept by the FBI and would searchable with their other data bases to track criminals. Fees for the licenses to be sufficient to cover the costs of issuing and recording the licenses. Enjoy. Edited by RAZD, : . Edited by RAZD, : fees Edited by RAZD, : subtby our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1425 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Pass a federal regulation that all guns must be registered in every state, referenced to the owners gun license.
The FBI would be charged with maintaining the whole record, and checking them for multiple entries (DNA, fingerprints). Fees for the registration to be sufficient to cover the costs of issuing and maintaining the registration records etc. Enjoy Edited by RAZD, : fees Edited by RAZD, : subtby our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click) |
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1425 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Keep a federal registry (FBI) of previously convicted criminal gun users plus irrational/delusional/unstable people -- with doctors required to submit names -- to use as part of the data base for license background checks by the states before gun licenses are issued.
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2126 days) Posts: 6117 Joined:
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How about not?
Before you start stacking rule upon regulation on honest gun owners, figure out why all the already-extensive rules and regulations that exist in places like Chicago, Washington DC, and New York City aren't working. You know the definition of insanity: Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1425 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
or figure out why they are not working.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1425 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Pass a federal regulation that a guns cannot change hands until the gun registration and new owner gun licenses are updated.
In theory then any gun is traced directly to the owner, and any gun that is not properly registered and/or that is not in the possession of the licensed gun owner is an illegal weapon that can be confiscated and returned to the proper owner. Enjoy. Edited by RAZD, : subt Edited by RAZD, : subtby our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click) |
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1425 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Pass a federal regulation that no more than 1 operational gun may be carried at any time and that no more than 5 bullets for that gun may be carried at any time.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1425 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Pass a federal regulation that states must require gun owners to carry insurance to cover liability and damages from either accidental or intentional use for each gun owned.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1425 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Pass a federal regulation that all ammunition must have a tracking system so that the used ammunition can be tracked back to the registered owner.
US6810816B2 - Ammunition tracking system
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1425 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Pass a federal regulation that both gun license and registration need to be provided in order to purchase ammunition.
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2126 days) Posts: 6117 Joined:
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Pass a law that murder using a gun merits life in prison without the possibility of parole.
(Wait! Didn't they already do that?)
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Tangle Member Posts: 9504 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.7
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Given where you are, to make any difference at all, you'd have to get properly harsh.
An outright ban on the ownership of handguns and assault weapons. A recall of existing guns in those categories and strong Federal - not state - licensing of hunting rifles and shotguns. And don't dick about splitting hairs with definitions. Good luck with all that.Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android |
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2126 days) Posts: 6117 Joined:
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Following the Newtown massacre there has been an outcry from the left for more and tougher gun laws. Sen. Dianne Feinstein has proposed another assault weapons ban with more teeth than the previous ban. Exactly what are consequences of tough gun laws? Let us construct a hypothetical place with some strict gun laws:
Let’s regulate the sale, possession and use of firearms. Let’s regulate ammunition. Let’s insist that those possessing firearms have a Firearm Owners Identification (FOID) card. Let’s ban automatic firearms, short-barreled shotguns and short-barreled rifles. Let’s ban assault weapons. Let’s ban magazines that can hold more than 10 or 12 rounds of ammunition. Let’s deny gun ownership to those who have been convicted of a felony or an act of domestic violence, are the subject of an order of protection, have been convicted of assault or battery or been a patient in a mental institution within the last five years, have been adjudicated as a mental defective, or are illegal immigrants. For want of a better name, let’s call a place with gun laws like this--Chicago. What America would look like with strict gun laws - Flopping Aces
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