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Shield
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Message 91 of 174 (687361)
01-09-2013 7:27 PM
Reply to: Message 90 by hooah212002
01-09-2013 7:06 PM


Ive heard Hitchens and others talk the same kind of smack about religious people. It dosent bother me that much. We live in an ignorant world, you just have to get by without it getting to you.
Apparently Steve Harvey is ignorant.. so what, its dosent make the funny clips with him unfunny.

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foreveryoung
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Message 92 of 174 (687365)
01-09-2013 8:40 PM
Reply to: Message 91 by Shield
01-09-2013 7:27 PM


Exactly. Steve Harvey isn't speaking out of malice toward atheists. He is speaking out of ignorance.

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Shield
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Message 93 of 174 (687369)
01-09-2013 10:26 PM
Reply to: Message 92 by foreveryoung
01-09-2013 8:40 PM


I agree!
FEY, the most important part of my post was:
We live in an ignorant world, you just have to get by without it getting to you.
I dont participate much here, but i read most of what is posted. I feel you, ive suffered through depression and anxiety as well. Dont let the world get to you.
You are young, and as was mentioned to you earlier; The world is your oyster. Im just 25, and i'm almost over my depression and anxiety. Theres still a lot of time left.

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onifre
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Message 94 of 174 (687437)
01-10-2013 4:34 PM
Reply to: Message 89 by Shield
01-09-2013 6:58 PM


I only know Steve Harvey as the host of family feud, and he is hilarious IMO.
He's a jaded asshole who is now on Family Fued because no one can work with him in any other capacity. He was a funny comic once. But after Kings of Comedy and everyone elses success he broke ties with those guys and became a total dick to all his friends.
- Oni

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xongsmith
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Message 95 of 174 (687466)
01-10-2013 8:16 PM
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01-09-2013 9:27 AM


Panda writes:
Would it be ok for me to recommend DWise's reply for post of the month?
Message 67
You got my high five. I was almost going to do that when I saw your post here - by all means go ahead.

- xongsmith, 5.7d

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Taq
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Message 96 of 174 (687487)
01-11-2013 1:26 AM
Reply to: Message 67 by dwise1
01-09-2013 5:49 AM


The point I was trying to make there is that instead of confronting a strong force, such as your dark nature, you could accomplish more by blending with it and redirecting it. A counselor should be able to help you in that endeavor.
That is really good advice. I have seen too many people who feel that they have to "change" themselves. Don't. You will always lose. ALWAYS.
What you need to do is understand yourself, even the parts you hate. You need to own your flaws. You need to soak in them, take them up, and roll in them. Only then can you really move in the direction you want to go in. You also need to realize that you will never fix it. That flaw will always be there no matter what you do. You don't fix flaws, you overcome them.
What will result is a person who is comfortable with themself. From my experience, that is what people are drawn to. People are not looking for perfection. They are looking for honesty.

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foreveryoung
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Message 97 of 174 (687488)
01-11-2013 1:35 AM
Reply to: Message 76 by AZPaul3
01-09-2013 2:07 PM


The guy in the white mask in this video is a dark person.
Really, the whole video is what I mean by being dark.
Edited by foreveryoung, : No reason given.

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foreveryoung
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Message 98 of 174 (687489)
01-11-2013 1:46 AM
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01-09-2013 7:27 PM


We live in an ignorant world, you just have to get by without it getting to you.
Exactly and how wise. I missed this before in my preoccupation with hooahs concern over steve harveys comments.
Edited by foreveryoung, : No reason given.

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dwise1
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Message 99 of 174 (687544)
01-12-2013 1:46 AM
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01-11-2013 1:26 AM


We all have dark parts in our nature. Parts that we don't like or that cause too much trouble. So what do we do about them?
What I want to do with it is to lock it up in the deepest darkest possible oubliette (a dungeon cell where you lock somebody up and forget about them, comme le mot franais, oublier, "to forget") and bury it under concrete. But it never remains buried, but rather always resurfaces in ways that are worse than the original darkness and which always makes a far worse mess.
That, foreveryoung, is why you need to learn to deal with your darkness and to redirect and rechannel it to something better. I know that trying to bury it is a mistake because I have already tried that! It is important to learn from your own mistake, but what is far more important is to learn from other peoples' mistakes.
There is a famous quote that used to be on my site from Sun Tzu's The Art of War:
quote:
Scroll III (Offensive Strategy):
31. Therefore I say: "Know the enemy and know yourself; in a hundred battles you will never be in peril.
32. When you are ignorant of the enemy but know yourself, your chances of winning or losing are equal.
33. If ignorant both of your enemy and of yourself, you are certain in every battle to be in peril."
(Sun Tzu The Art of War, translation by Samuel B. Griffith, Oxford University Press, 1963)
Knowing yourself includes knowing your own faults, weaknesses, and dark side.
Edited by dwise1, : dBCodes thingee

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NoNukes
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Message 100 of 174 (687545)
01-12-2013 3:55 AM
Reply to: Message 86 by Theodoric
01-09-2013 6:08 PM


I suggest he start with Dark Side of the Moon
I couldn't recommend DSOTM for treating depression. Yeah, one of the greatest rock albums ever, but isn't 'Money' the closest thing to an upbeat cut on the entire album? I once belted out some lines from 'Time' at a birthday and ended up stumbling through an apology that was not well received. 'Sun is the same in a relative way but you're older. Shorter of breath, and one day closer to death' uh, oops?
How about 'One of these days? from Meddle'. Or 10 minutes of 'Shine on you Crazy Diamond?'
And skip the drugs. Totally unnecessary. Pink Floyd is experience enough.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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NoNukes
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Message 101 of 174 (687546)
01-12-2013 4:16 AM
Reply to: Message 86 by Theodoric
01-09-2013 6:08 PM


I suggest he start with Dark Side of the Moon
I couldn't recommend DSOTM for treating depression. Yeah, one of the greatest rock albums ever, but isn't 'Money' the closest thing to an upbeat cut on the entire album? I once belted out some lines from 'Time' at a birthday and ended up stumbling through an apology that was not well received. 'Sun is the same in a relative way but you're older. Shorter of breath, and one day closer to death' uh, oops?
How about 'One of these days? from Meddle'. Or 10 minutes of 'Shine on you Crazy Diamond?'
And skip the drugs. Totally unnecessary. Pink Floyd is experience enough.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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hooah212002
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Message 102 of 174 (687549)
01-12-2013 8:57 AM
Reply to: Message 100 by NoNukes
01-12-2013 3:55 AM


I couldn't recommend DSOTM for treating depression.
You aren't really thinking that oni is saying "listen to this rock album while tripping/smikin a doobie and your depression will be cured. Signed, Doctor Onifre", are you? It's just a way of saying "do this and get outside of your mind because your mind is trying to hurt you".
And skip the drugs. Totally unnecessary.
Maybe for you, but you aren't depressed, now are you? If your "mood" is your problem, then mood altering substances will likely help. Besides, fey needs actual psychiatric help (unless this is a paltry attempt at trolling) and any psychiatrist/therapist will prescribe him drugs anyways. You're just being a stuffy old curmudgeon saying "drugs are bad, mmkay?" all the while probably regularly taking some socially accepted drug every day.
Edited by hooah212002, : No reason given.
Edited by hooah212002, : No reason given.

"Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins

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Omnivorous
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Message 103 of 174 (687550)
01-12-2013 9:56 AM
Reply to: Message 83 by Shield
01-09-2013 4:46 PM


Bonus cheer for linking Erowid...
I agree about fey avoiding salvia--he'd be terrified.
I disagree with you about shrooms. Psilocybin's positive effect on depression, anxiety and OCD has been shown in studies from the 1950s through 2012.
MDMA? Sure, but anything on campus today is unlikely to be MDMA--more likely one of the molecularly similar designer drugs offered by "research chem" sites the past decade or so.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
As to the fat girls: sometimes amazing things happen when people are treated to a bit of affection and thereby gain some of the self-respect and confidence they lacked. I dated a pudgy fellow soldier way back when--because she was smart and funny, pretty despite the extra pounds. Over a period of a few months she transformed herself into a real beauty.
I'd urge fey to focus on finding a relationship that includes genuine mutual affection and respect, rather than seeking a trophy lover. Everything else will follow.

"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads."

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Message 104 of 174 (687559)
01-12-2013 6:09 PM
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01-12-2013 9:56 AM


and making love with a bony girl causes bruises ...
Enjoy

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NoNukes
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Message 105 of 174 (687566)
01-12-2013 11:58 PM
Reply to: Message 102 by hooah212002
01-12-2013 8:57 AM


You aren't really thinking that oni is saying "listen to this rock album while tripping/smikin a doobie and your depression will be cured.
Of course not.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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