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dayalanand roy Junior Member (Idle past 3842 days) Posts: 18 Joined: |
We should not be that much reductionist. A molecule is a molecule. And it is yet to be decided that which point in chemical evolution should be looked upon as an interface between chemical evolution and biological evolution.
regards and thanks for the reply.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17919 Joined: Member Rating: 6.6 |
I wasn't being reductionist. The point was that at that stage the genotype-phenotype distinction is absent. And since you yourself indicated that you consider the RNA world to contain life, I do not think that you can reasonably criticise me for following your lead.
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dayalanand roy Junior Member (Idle past 3842 days) Posts: 18 Joined: |
Many thanks for educating me and eliminating my doubts. However, I am unable to follow exactly your posting tips.
regards.
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dayalanand roy Junior Member (Idle past 3842 days) Posts: 18 Joined: |
Yes, of course at that time, genotype-phenotype distinction was absent. 'How life originated' is such a complicated problem that we should be very cautious, question hundred times every answer before reaching any final answer. This is my sole purpose in raising these isssues. Your suggestions, however, have done great help to me.
Many thanks and regards.
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dayalanand roy Junior Member (Idle past 3842 days) Posts: 18 Joined: |
Yes, of course at that time, genotype-phenotype distinction was absent. 'How life originated' is such a complicated problem that we should be very cautious, question hundred times every answer before reaching any final answer. This is my sole purpose in raising these isssues. Your suggestions, however, have done great help to me.
Many thanks and regards.
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dayalanand roy Junior Member (Idle past 3842 days) Posts: 18 Joined: |
Great, I too believe in this school of thought, but simply on the basis of some reasoning and intution. I am craving to find some evidences in favor of this theory. I am looking for a suitable mentor and a suitable place to do it. regards.
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dayalanand roy Junior Member (Idle past 3842 days) Posts: 18 Joined: |
Enzymes are merely required to speed up a reaction as most of the reacting molecules have energy levels much below the transition state. Is it not possible that in the primitive earth conditions, molecules were associated with higher energy levels so as to react easily without the help of an enzyme? Another possibility could be this- It is actually the three dimensional structure, the conformation of the enzyme (along with some functional groups present on it) that creates the enzymatic property of an enzyme. Is it not possible that when the substrate molecules got their shapes, their surrounding molecules acquired an anti-shape, formed some pseudo-enzyme and catalyzed the associated substrate in a manner a modern enzyme does. Later on, when amino acids were developed, those pseudo-enzymes worked as casts to mould amino acids into enzymes. This moulding could have passed through several trial and errors unless a particular sequence of amino acids came into being that fitted into that cast of pseudo-enzyme and thus, a true enzyme could have been formed. This is only a speculation, subject to serious criticism, as there are no proofs. regards
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1663 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Hi again dayalanand roy,
... However, I am unable to follow exactly your posting tips. regards. When you look at the top right coner of the block for Message you're replying to: you will see two radio buttons, on for Normal (default) and one for Peek Mode: -- change to peek mode and you can see how the message you're replying to was formated. Also see Posting Tips Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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Saiyan Junior Member (Idle past 4382 days) Posts: 1 Joined: |
The analogy of RNA as some sort of storage "device" is irrelevant. Nature didn't create anything, but rather RNA resulted from the accumulation of proteins and phosporus bonds in a complex structure which resulted in RNA. It's not as if these proteins became RNA with the "intention" of becoming living. Complexity is a natural result of trillions of random and complex combinations. Life could also potentially be the result of other unknown combinations which form from other elements. It neither proves nor disproves your position of theism.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1724 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
RNA isn't made out of protein.
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1.61803 Member (Idle past 1761 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined: |
DOH!!!!!
"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs
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dayalanand roy Junior Member (Idle past 3842 days) Posts: 18 Joined: |
Thanks and regards
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dayalanand roy Junior Member (Idle past 3842 days) Posts: 18 Joined: |
RNA does not results from combination of proteins and phosphorus.
It is sugar+phosphate+base. And science has reached a stage where we are bound to think towards an anthropic universe. regards
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sunshaker Member (Idle past 1220 days) Posts: 49 From: England Joined:
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While recently expanding the periodic table, i realised that i could put multiple tables together,
While each single table was just a group of elements, when they join together they reminded me of rna/dna, It was the joining that creates a reaction throughout both tables/strands as the elements are reshuffled to form a balance, As shown at elements 167/172. http://alphaomegadotme.files.wordpress.com/...anded11111.xls
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